1 00:00:22,320 --> 00:00:25,200 A Malaysia Airlines plane, with nearly 300 people on board, 2 00:00:25,200 --> 00:00:27,640 has crashed in Ukraine near the Russian border. 3 00:00:27,640 --> 00:00:32,040 {\an8}Flight MH17 took off from Amsterdam just after midday local time. 4 00:00:32,040 --> 00:00:34,160 {\an8}It was bound for Kuala Lumpur. 5 00:00:40,560 --> 00:00:42,400 I woke up one morning 6 00:00:42,400 --> 00:00:47,000 and there was a Malaysian plane splashed across the TV. 7 00:00:47,000 --> 00:00:50,120 Instantly, I thought it was MH370 8 00:00:50,120 --> 00:00:52,680 and then I saw MH17 and I went, 9 00:00:52,680 --> 00:00:55,760 "Hold on." "Can't be another Malaysian plane." 10 00:00:56,480 --> 00:00:59,880 US intelligence has concluded it was shot down 11 00:00:59,880 --> 00:01:01,640 by a surface-to-air missile. 12 00:01:01,640 --> 00:01:04,920 The odds of losing two airplanes within a six-month period 13 00:01:04,920 --> 00:01:06,040 is unprecedented. 14 00:01:06,040 --> 00:01:07,680 And both 777s too. 15 00:01:08,800 --> 00:01:11,840 Again it happened to Malaysia Airlines plane. 16 00:01:11,840 --> 00:01:14,040 Again it happened to my colleagues. 17 00:01:14,800 --> 00:01:15,760 And... 18 00:01:16,560 --> 00:01:21,000 it just so happened that this time, they can bury their loved ones. 19 00:01:23,360 --> 00:01:24,720 Because we also... 20 00:01:27,640 --> 00:01:28,560 Yeah. 21 00:01:29,880 --> 00:01:32,520 We also want to bury our loved ones. 22 00:01:37,920 --> 00:01:40,120 {\an8}I just went numb. Completely numb. 23 00:01:40,800 --> 00:01:42,000 {\an8}And... 24 00:01:42,000 --> 00:01:43,800 I just couldn't believe it. 25 00:01:44,760 --> 00:01:48,280 We kept thinking, "There is probably some kind of plan 26 00:01:48,280 --> 00:01:51,520 to destroy our credibility." 27 00:01:51,520 --> 00:01:54,720 A series of actions trying to bring us down. 28 00:01:55,560 --> 00:01:58,720 Ukrainian president called the downing of a Malaysian Airlines 29 00:01:58,720 --> 00:02:01,080 passenger plane an act of terrorism. 30 00:02:01,080 --> 00:02:03,520 It turned out that it was a Russian army unit 31 00:02:03,520 --> 00:02:06,520 under the command of Russia's military intelligence. 32 00:02:09,400 --> 00:02:12,880 Malaysia Airlines hadn't had a major accident since the '90s 33 00:02:12,880 --> 00:02:17,320 and now within a span of four and a half months, they'd lost two, big 777s. 34 00:02:18,000 --> 00:02:19,680 I had to wonder, 35 00:02:19,680 --> 00:02:21,240 "Is this just a coincidence?" 36 00:02:21,920 --> 00:02:25,520 And if there was a link between the two of them, 37 00:02:27,080 --> 00:02:29,160 {\an8}the underlying truth had to be way darker 38 00:02:29,160 --> 00:02:31,480 {\an8}then anyone had anticipated at that point. 39 00:02:35,360 --> 00:02:37,040 We don't have the answers. 40 00:02:37,600 --> 00:02:41,360 This is one of the great mysteries in aviation history. 41 00:02:51,880 --> 00:02:54,760 Australia will lead the search in the Indian Ocean 42 00:02:54,760 --> 00:02:56,800 for the missing Malaysia Airlines jet. 43 00:02:57,360 --> 00:03:00,320 In the months that followed the shoot-down of MH17... 44 00:03:01,440 --> 00:03:02,720 As I thought about 45 00:03:02,720 --> 00:03:06,720 the idea that maybe the Russians had caused both of these events, 46 00:03:06,720 --> 00:03:09,280 the search for MH370 was already underway. 47 00:03:10,160 --> 00:03:13,480 Experts say the jet going down in the Indian Ocean, 48 00:03:13,480 --> 00:03:15,400 more than 1,800 kilometers 49 00:03:15,400 --> 00:03:17,360 off the West Australian coast. 50 00:03:17,360 --> 00:03:19,840 It's a vast area, a huge responsibility 51 00:03:19,840 --> 00:03:23,480 for Australia as they try and find any trace of flight 370. 52 00:03:24,640 --> 00:03:26,960 Tonight, there are 43 ships, 53 00:03:26,960 --> 00:03:28,400 58 aircraft, 54 00:03:28,400 --> 00:03:33,080 from 14 different countries, all working together to try to find clues. 55 00:03:33,080 --> 00:03:35,720 The area they're searching is far larger 56 00:03:35,720 --> 00:03:37,880 than the continental United States. 57 00:03:38,440 --> 00:03:40,520 We're not searching for a needle in a haystack, 58 00:03:40,520 --> 00:03:42,480 we're trying to define where the haystack is. 59 00:03:47,080 --> 00:03:49,480 The search team still insists the debris field 60 00:03:49,480 --> 00:03:51,240 is here on the ocean floor, 61 00:03:51,240 --> 00:03:54,120 a location they say satellite data points to. 62 00:03:54,920 --> 00:03:57,200 The official account 63 00:03:57,200 --> 00:04:00,960 was that the plane definitely went south into the southern Indian Ocean. 64 00:04:00,960 --> 00:04:04,120 Because that's where the last electronic signals had been detected. 65 00:04:04,960 --> 00:04:08,120 The Inmarsat data says the plane went south. 66 00:04:11,920 --> 00:04:14,960 I can't imagine someone I loved 67 00:04:15,560 --> 00:04:18,720 lost in the southern Indian Ocean in 4,000 meters of water. 68 00:04:18,720 --> 00:04:20,520 I mean, that's just... 69 00:04:20,520 --> 00:04:21,440 inconceivable. 70 00:04:23,480 --> 00:04:28,240 There was 239 families who were desperate for answers. 71 00:04:28,240 --> 00:04:29,680 And... 72 00:04:29,680 --> 00:04:32,200 I made a promise at that time 73 00:04:32,200 --> 00:04:34,600 that I'd do everything I could, as an individual, 74 00:04:34,600 --> 00:04:36,280 to bring their loved ones home. 75 00:04:39,040 --> 00:04:42,000 But it was a very, very difficult area to search. 76 00:04:45,920 --> 00:04:49,480 {\an8}What you hope for is a nice, flat, soft plane. 77 00:04:50,920 --> 00:04:52,280 {\an8}But there were 78 00:04:52,280 --> 00:04:54,320 volcanoes, underwater mountains, 79 00:04:54,320 --> 00:04:57,960 every bit as big and wide as the Grand Canyon. 80 00:04:59,800 --> 00:05:02,400 The weather at times is appalling down there. 81 00:05:05,080 --> 00:05:07,800 They measured a wave of 24 meters. 82 00:05:09,160 --> 00:05:11,400 It was definitely not for the faint-hearted. 83 00:05:14,640 --> 00:05:17,760 So, we knew the chances were it would take a long time. 84 00:05:37,600 --> 00:05:40,440 This is what a year of grieving looks like. 85 00:05:43,160 --> 00:05:47,840 The relatives of the missing have experienced denial, anger, sadness. 86 00:05:47,840 --> 00:05:50,360 But with not a single trace of the plane, 87 00:05:50,360 --> 00:05:52,520 acceptance is a long way off. 88 00:05:53,080 --> 00:05:55,640 This is why I am here speaking to you today. 89 00:05:55,640 --> 00:05:59,400 This is why I'm here going through this heart-wrenching episode, 90 00:05:59,400 --> 00:06:01,720 talking about my feelings. It's not easy. 91 00:06:02,320 --> 00:06:07,360 {\an8}I think, for everyone, it had been a very difficult year for the next of kin. 92 00:06:07,360 --> 00:06:10,600 When I decided to then address the public on that day, 93 00:06:10,600 --> 00:06:13,840 I was just speaking to them as a daughter missing her mother. 94 00:06:14,720 --> 00:06:16,800 But I'm doing it because I need to know 95 00:06:16,800 --> 00:06:19,440 that I've done everything that I can for my mother. 96 00:06:20,080 --> 00:06:21,680 Even if she's not here. 97 00:06:21,680 --> 00:06:23,320 I think I still lived my days 98 00:06:23,320 --> 00:06:25,640 thinking my mom would walk through the door any minute. 99 00:06:26,640 --> 00:06:30,840 Because we had not discovered any debris, there was absolutely nothing. 100 00:06:32,640 --> 00:06:34,560 So my daughter asked me, 101 00:06:35,960 --> 00:06:37,280 "Where is Papa?" 102 00:06:39,360 --> 00:06:40,520 "If Papa died, 103 00:06:41,280 --> 00:06:42,840 where is his grave?" 104 00:06:44,080 --> 00:06:46,560 She asked me again and again. 105 00:06:48,440 --> 00:06:50,560 "Why Papa work on airplane?" 106 00:06:50,560 --> 00:06:53,080 "Why didn't Papa go work somewhere else?" 107 00:06:53,080 --> 00:06:56,880 "If Papa go worked somewhere else, Papa wouldn't go missing." 108 00:07:02,000 --> 00:07:03,200 A whole year 109 00:07:03,840 --> 00:07:05,280 had gone past 110 00:07:05,880 --> 00:07:10,080 and we were still no further ahead 111 00:07:10,680 --> 00:07:12,800 than we were from March 8th. 112 00:07:14,120 --> 00:07:19,480 Just seemed surreal to be standing there still, 12 months on. 113 00:07:21,160 --> 00:07:23,360 And all I had 114 00:07:24,640 --> 00:07:25,520 is him 115 00:07:26,440 --> 00:07:29,920 walking out that door and kissing us goodbye. 116 00:07:31,920 --> 00:07:33,080 And that was still, 117 00:07:33,960 --> 00:07:35,520 a year on, all I had. 118 00:07:50,600 --> 00:07:51,680 Planes go up. 119 00:07:52,200 --> 00:07:53,120 Planes go down. 120 00:07:55,680 --> 00:07:59,600 What planes don't do is just vanish off the face of the earth. 121 00:08:01,240 --> 00:08:05,440 I remember when it was missing for a week and we were all incredulous. 122 00:08:05,440 --> 00:08:06,800 You know, we said to one another, 123 00:08:06,800 --> 00:08:10,560 "I can't believe it's been a whole week and we still haven't found this plane." 124 00:08:10,560 --> 00:08:13,640 And then, after a month, "We still haven't found this plane." 125 00:08:13,640 --> 00:08:15,040 And then a year later... 126 00:08:16,920 --> 00:08:18,760 "We're still looking for this plane?" 127 00:08:19,520 --> 00:08:21,640 The profundity of this mystery, 128 00:08:22,320 --> 00:08:25,720 and the incompetence of the Malaysian authorities 129 00:08:25,720 --> 00:08:27,960 to answer anybody's questions 130 00:08:28,640 --> 00:08:30,520 had presented a vacuum. 131 00:08:31,480 --> 00:08:34,560 And there was a lot of people out there 132 00:08:34,560 --> 00:08:37,320 who were claiming that they had solved it. 133 00:08:39,280 --> 00:08:42,040 On social media, conspiracy theories 134 00:08:42,040 --> 00:08:43,840 about the missing plane are going viral. 135 00:08:44,600 --> 00:08:47,560 {\an8} The real Malaysian Airlines flight was hijacked 136 00:08:47,560 --> 00:08:49,640 {\an8}and flown to Iran 137 00:08:49,640 --> 00:08:52,480 {\an8}in preparation for a terror attack. 138 00:08:53,040 --> 00:08:56,600 Theories are bouncing off the walls. Everyone's got an idea. 139 00:08:56,600 --> 00:09:00,400 {\an8} Fire from lithium batteries in the cargo hold brought the plane down. 140 00:09:00,400 --> 00:09:02,600 Speculation is rife. 141 00:09:02,600 --> 00:09:04,960 News has broke that a fisherman from Indonesia 142 00:09:04,960 --> 00:09:09,040 claims he saw the damaged plane covered in smoke as it flew overhead. 143 00:09:09,040 --> 00:09:10,920 Another conspiracy, 144 00:09:10,920 --> 00:09:13,240 an outrageous insurance scam. 145 00:09:13,240 --> 00:09:15,800 Some of these people showed up outside my office, 146 00:09:15,800 --> 00:09:17,200 would chase me down in a car park. 147 00:09:17,200 --> 00:09:20,120 It was quite scary. I remember spraining an ankle once trying to escape 148 00:09:20,120 --> 00:09:23,880 one of these people who really just wanted to bring their theory to me. 149 00:09:23,880 --> 00:09:25,920 Four days after flight disappeared, 150 00:09:25,920 --> 00:09:29,840 there was a patent issued for a new semiconductor technology. 151 00:09:29,840 --> 00:09:33,160 Others wonder, "Did it land on the US military base 152 00:09:33,160 --> 00:09:35,000 known as Diego Garcia?" 153 00:09:35,600 --> 00:09:38,640 We're trying to sift through this waterfall 154 00:09:38,640 --> 00:09:41,840 of misinformation and speculation... 155 00:09:41,840 --> 00:09:42,920 and nonsense. 156 00:09:42,920 --> 00:09:45,640 The totally bizarre. A meteorite hitting it. 157 00:09:46,760 --> 00:09:50,440 Perhaps, some suggest, North Korea took the airplane. 158 00:09:50,440 --> 00:09:52,760 {\an8} Does this mean an alien was on the plane? 159 00:09:52,760 --> 00:09:54,960 And abducted everyone on board. 160 00:09:54,960 --> 00:09:56,920 It gets even weirder. 161 00:10:00,160 --> 00:10:03,040 Sometimes you just feel like you're drowning in horseshit. 162 00:10:03,040 --> 00:10:06,000 Because there's just so many baseless ideas. 163 00:10:07,080 --> 00:10:08,840 If you want to believe in a theory, 164 00:10:08,840 --> 00:10:12,440 make sure that it concurs with the Inmarsat data 165 00:10:13,080 --> 00:10:15,440 that told the scientist how far 166 00:10:15,440 --> 00:10:17,720 the plane was from the satellite. 167 00:10:18,560 --> 00:10:22,360 This is the key clue of the entire mystery 168 00:10:22,360 --> 00:10:26,000 and people are choosing to just say, "Fuck it." 169 00:10:31,240 --> 00:10:34,440 And yet the plane wasn't where 170 00:10:34,440 --> 00:10:36,760 the data said it was supposed to be, 171 00:10:36,760 --> 00:10:38,560 in the southern Indian Ocean. 172 00:10:39,840 --> 00:10:43,040 That seemed to me something that had to be grappled with. 173 00:10:43,040 --> 00:10:44,960 We had to address the issue 174 00:10:44,960 --> 00:10:48,040 of why wasn't the plane where it was supposed to be? 175 00:10:48,040 --> 00:10:49,560 Where had we gone wrong? 176 00:11:02,000 --> 00:11:05,360 The story was so incredible. 177 00:11:05,360 --> 00:11:08,640 I decided to suggest to Le Monde, 178 00:11:08,640 --> 00:11:10,560 a French daily newspaper, 179 00:11:10,560 --> 00:11:14,480 to revisit the story for the one-year anniversary. 180 00:11:14,480 --> 00:11:15,400 Just saying, 181 00:11:15,920 --> 00:11:21,320 "Guys, this plane has been completely missing for a year." 182 00:11:22,920 --> 00:11:25,480 I'm a journalist and I've been a reporter 183 00:11:25,480 --> 00:11:28,400 covering Asia-Pacific for the last 30 years. 184 00:11:29,760 --> 00:11:33,320 The fact that there was not a single piece of debris 185 00:11:33,320 --> 00:11:35,120 was the biggest issue. 186 00:11:36,440 --> 00:11:40,440 There was nothing tangible, credible, 187 00:11:40,440 --> 00:11:43,200 that the families could relate to. 188 00:11:44,760 --> 00:11:48,800 And the captain was made the potential villain. 189 00:11:50,120 --> 00:11:53,800 I realized that we had to start from scratch again. 190 00:11:54,640 --> 00:11:57,280 And I need to have my own 191 00:11:57,280 --> 00:12:00,360 understanding of who this man is. 192 00:12:02,760 --> 00:12:05,080 There was a very consistent 193 00:12:05,080 --> 00:12:08,880 and hostile campaign related to 194 00:12:08,880 --> 00:12:11,480 his private life, his mental health. 195 00:12:12,240 --> 00:12:15,960 There were also accusations that he may have had 196 00:12:15,960 --> 00:12:17,760 political motivations 197 00:12:17,760 --> 00:12:20,560 to disappear MH370. 198 00:12:21,560 --> 00:12:24,960 He was a fan of Anwar Ibrahim, 199 00:12:24,960 --> 00:12:27,840 who was the leader of the opposition party. 200 00:12:27,840 --> 00:12:31,480 Zaharie attended Anwar's pro-democracy rallies and meetings. 201 00:12:31,480 --> 00:12:33,800 Local press are now asking, 202 00:12:33,800 --> 00:12:38,320 "Did Zaharie purposely down the plane to make a political statement?" 203 00:12:39,800 --> 00:12:42,600 But he left no message, uh, 204 00:12:42,600 --> 00:12:45,240 whatsoever, political, 205 00:12:45,240 --> 00:12:50,000 uh, or goodbye to his family, or any suicide note. 206 00:12:50,000 --> 00:12:51,280 None at all. 207 00:12:51,960 --> 00:12:54,600 And the more I looked at his life, 208 00:12:54,600 --> 00:12:58,680 the less I could see a reason for him 209 00:12:58,680 --> 00:13:01,880 to be angry or to be unhappy. 210 00:13:02,480 --> 00:13:04,320 Hi everyone. Uh... 211 00:13:04,320 --> 00:13:07,840 This is a YouTube video that I made as a 212 00:13:08,360 --> 00:13:10,320 community service. 213 00:13:10,320 --> 00:13:11,560 This was a man 214 00:13:11,560 --> 00:13:14,640 who was doing YouTube videos to help 215 00:13:15,360 --> 00:13:17,120 sealing your windows 216 00:13:17,120 --> 00:13:19,480 or fixing your air conditioning. 217 00:13:19,480 --> 00:13:22,360 This is the cheapest solution that you can do. 218 00:13:22,360 --> 00:13:23,720 And it's very effective. 219 00:13:23,720 --> 00:13:27,720 In my opinion, he was certainly not an extremist. 220 00:13:29,160 --> 00:13:34,160 What I did was line up interviews with members of his family. 221 00:13:35,920 --> 00:13:37,720 My very first encounter 222 00:13:37,720 --> 00:13:41,120 was with his older sister, Sakinab. 223 00:13:42,720 --> 00:13:45,440 He's a very gentle, very caring 224 00:13:47,000 --> 00:13:47,840 person. 225 00:13:47,840 --> 00:13:51,960 Sakinab, when I met her, was obviously very upset. 226 00:13:51,960 --> 00:13:57,200 First, because she lost this precious little brother that she loved so much, 227 00:13:57,200 --> 00:14:01,680 but also because she had to endure 228 00:14:01,680 --> 00:14:08,400 these insinuations that he was responsible for this disaster. 229 00:14:11,240 --> 00:14:13,120 Captain Zaharie is 230 00:14:14,960 --> 00:14:19,040 known as one of the best pilots at Malaysia Airlines. 231 00:14:19,040 --> 00:14:20,960 And all the crews 232 00:14:21,840 --> 00:14:24,640 definitely don't agree with 233 00:14:24,640 --> 00:14:27,560 that kind of accusation towards Captain Zaharie. 234 00:14:29,840 --> 00:14:32,760 When the spotlight focused on Captain Zaharie, 235 00:14:32,760 --> 00:14:35,000 I took offense to that. 236 00:14:35,000 --> 00:14:39,160 {\an8}Because I know him personally. I know him very well. 237 00:14:39,160 --> 00:14:41,640 {\an8}And he's a person who is very professional. 238 00:14:41,640 --> 00:14:44,320 There's no way he could have done this. 239 00:14:46,040 --> 00:14:48,360 If there's no proof, then you shouldn't assume 240 00:14:48,360 --> 00:14:49,880 someone did that. 241 00:14:49,880 --> 00:14:52,120 Especially maybe because I'm a criminal lawyer, 242 00:14:52,120 --> 00:14:55,080 and being innocent until proven guilty is very important to me. 243 00:14:58,440 --> 00:15:01,520 People say everyone may have a darker side. 244 00:15:02,280 --> 00:15:03,560 Okay. Maybe, then. 245 00:15:03,560 --> 00:15:05,920 But, as far as I'm concerned, 246 00:15:06,560 --> 00:15:10,400 based on all the information I gathered and I read, 247 00:15:11,640 --> 00:15:13,320 my answer is, "No." 248 00:15:14,960 --> 00:15:16,280 "He's, he's not guilty." 249 00:15:26,160 --> 00:15:27,640 So, it's a year on. 250 00:15:27,640 --> 00:15:30,040 It seems to me increasingly problematic 251 00:15:30,040 --> 00:15:33,640 that the plane has not been found, no debris has been found. 252 00:15:33,640 --> 00:15:36,240 All... The entire search effort at this point 253 00:15:36,920 --> 00:15:39,400 is based on the satellite data. 254 00:15:41,880 --> 00:15:42,720 But... 255 00:15:43,320 --> 00:15:46,720 ships and planes from 12 countries had been scouring 256 00:15:47,400 --> 00:15:51,720 millions of square miles of ocean and found not so much as a seat cushion. 257 00:15:52,760 --> 00:15:57,360 So the entire edifice is resting on this 258 00:15:57,360 --> 00:16:00,600 rather scant set of electronic signals 259 00:16:00,600 --> 00:16:04,800 and the fairly advanced mathematics that was used to understand them, 260 00:16:04,800 --> 00:16:06,320 by the Inmarsat company. 261 00:16:08,040 --> 00:16:11,840 At the time, I was still working with my colleagues in the Independent Group. 262 00:16:12,720 --> 00:16:16,520 They were this kind of amateur band of self-styled experts, 263 00:16:16,520 --> 00:16:19,720 who are obsessed with data and facts. 264 00:16:20,640 --> 00:16:22,280 We exchanged information, 265 00:16:23,000 --> 00:16:27,160 {\an8}about 18 of us, where we were working around the clock on it. 266 00:16:28,120 --> 00:16:31,880 I became very, very involved on a daily basis, 267 00:16:31,880 --> 00:16:34,920 corresponding with people in the Independent Group. 268 00:16:35,520 --> 00:16:39,760 And also people at CNN and other news organizations. 269 00:16:39,760 --> 00:16:41,360 I know it's complicated, 270 00:16:41,360 --> 00:16:43,200 but what do you see as the biggest problem? 271 00:16:43,200 --> 00:16:46,800 {\an8}The biggest problem is that Inmarsat hasn't released enough detail 272 00:16:46,800 --> 00:16:51,080 {\an8}to allow outsiders to confirm any of their analysis. 273 00:16:51,080 --> 00:16:53,880 {\an8}Really, all the faith has been in this data. 274 00:16:58,360 --> 00:17:02,320 Finally, the Malaysians did release all of the data 275 00:17:03,120 --> 00:17:05,240 gotten from the Inmarsat company. 276 00:17:07,320 --> 00:17:10,440 Inside the report was a paragraph that said, 277 00:17:11,000 --> 00:17:13,160 this piece of equipment 278 00:17:13,160 --> 00:17:16,720 that controlled the plane's communication with the satellite 279 00:17:17,240 --> 00:17:20,440 had been turned off when everything else was turned off 280 00:17:20,960 --> 00:17:22,800 and then it came back to life. 281 00:17:24,600 --> 00:17:28,760 That, to me, changed the entire tenor of the subject. 282 00:17:29,600 --> 00:17:33,680 Because if you wanted to abscond with an airplane, 283 00:17:33,680 --> 00:17:37,360 and if you wanted to turn it off and make it disappear from a screen... 284 00:17:39,000 --> 00:17:41,480 why would you turn the system back on? 285 00:17:42,760 --> 00:17:46,120 Maybe there was something really wrong 286 00:17:47,840 --> 00:17:49,400 with that Inmarsat data. 287 00:17:50,160 --> 00:17:51,800 Maybe it had been tampered with. 288 00:17:55,720 --> 00:17:58,640 So I spent a lot of time trying to figure out 289 00:17:58,640 --> 00:18:01,720 how could you turn the box off and back on again? 290 00:18:03,160 --> 00:18:05,200 And I quickly learned that 291 00:18:05,200 --> 00:18:08,000 most airline pilots are not trained how to do it. 292 00:18:08,000 --> 00:18:10,440 The airlines don't want them to do it. 293 00:18:10,440 --> 00:18:13,840 So there is no on and off switch in the cockpit. 294 00:18:15,800 --> 00:18:19,560 So this is the main equipment center of a commercial airliner. 295 00:18:19,560 --> 00:18:23,280 This is where essentially all the brains and the electronics... 296 00:18:23,280 --> 00:18:26,720 The 777 uses electronics to do everything. 297 00:18:26,720 --> 00:18:31,400 All of this resides inside the electronics bay. 298 00:18:31,400 --> 00:18:35,520 Effectively, the electronic brain of the whole plane. 299 00:18:35,520 --> 00:18:37,520 ...equipment racks where... 300 00:18:37,520 --> 00:18:41,040 And, in there, you can switch off this equipment. 301 00:18:43,440 --> 00:18:47,800 And you can deactivate the system by pulling those. You've got relays. 302 00:18:47,800 --> 00:18:52,080 So the question is, then, "How do you access the electronics bay?" 303 00:18:52,760 --> 00:18:54,880 And this is the part that really blew my mind. 304 00:18:57,360 --> 00:19:00,520 The electronics bay is under an unlocked hatch, 305 00:19:01,320 --> 00:19:05,200 under a piece of carpet at the front of the first-class cabin. 306 00:19:07,520 --> 00:19:11,600 Effectively anybody on that plane can pull up a carpet... 307 00:19:13,280 --> 00:19:15,000 and have control of the airplane. 308 00:19:22,680 --> 00:19:25,800 There's a hatch that leads to the avionics compartment, 309 00:19:25,800 --> 00:19:28,600 or the E&E bay, as we call it. 310 00:19:32,000 --> 00:19:35,640 And that hatch is in between the first class and the cockpit. 311 00:19:38,720 --> 00:19:41,360 So, there is a possibility that 312 00:19:41,360 --> 00:19:44,560 somebody could have got into the avionics compartment. 313 00:19:45,600 --> 00:19:49,040 And they can disable the communication system. 314 00:19:52,200 --> 00:19:55,800 Suddenly, it's not so clear that it was the pilot after all. 315 00:19:55,800 --> 00:19:58,880 It's like an Agatha Christie mystery. 316 00:19:58,880 --> 00:20:02,120 Everyone in the manor house is now a suspect. 317 00:20:14,840 --> 00:20:16,640 We were starting to think, 318 00:20:16,640 --> 00:20:19,640 "How can they tell us they don't know? It's impossible." 319 00:20:23,040 --> 00:20:25,480 When you follow the story closely, 320 00:20:25,480 --> 00:20:27,880 you can only conclude that none of it makes sense. 321 00:20:27,880 --> 00:20:30,400 We're not being shown proof of the radar sighting. 322 00:20:30,400 --> 00:20:33,520 "We can't find the plane. We can't find debris." 323 00:20:33,520 --> 00:20:35,800 We're not being shown anything. Nothing. 324 00:20:36,360 --> 00:20:39,240 We're asked to believe in pure nonsense. 325 00:20:46,320 --> 00:20:49,240 Someone I knew told me, 326 00:20:50,000 --> 00:20:52,120 "Mr. B would like to meet you." 327 00:20:53,240 --> 00:20:54,920 This person had information. 328 00:20:55,640 --> 00:20:57,920 He's someone who's very connected. 329 00:20:59,200 --> 00:21:01,160 Connected to the secret services. 330 00:21:06,320 --> 00:21:08,120 The first time I met him, 331 00:21:09,760 --> 00:21:11,480 the first thing he told me... 332 00:21:15,920 --> 00:21:19,040 "The Americans know full well what happened." 333 00:21:21,400 --> 00:21:25,440 "Because there were two American AWACS 334 00:21:26,040 --> 00:21:29,840 that were monitoring the area at the time the plane disappeared." 335 00:21:31,800 --> 00:21:37,400 These AWACS are Boeing planes with a huge radar like a mushroom on top. 336 00:21:38,040 --> 00:21:43,400 And this radar basically monitors everything underneath the Boeing. 337 00:21:45,120 --> 00:21:47,600 It's like a small satellite above 338 00:21:47,600 --> 00:21:51,000 the Earth that sees everything that's happening in a 600-km radius. 339 00:21:51,000 --> 00:21:53,920 Mr. B said these two planes must have 340 00:21:53,920 --> 00:21:59,120 perfectly tracked the MH370, regardless of its state at any moment. 341 00:21:59,120 --> 00:22:02,000 They know where it crashed. They know where it is. 342 00:22:05,280 --> 00:22:07,680 It's difficult when you receive information 343 00:22:07,680 --> 00:22:10,760 saying the Americans are involved. 344 00:22:10,760 --> 00:22:13,520 I know that if I say it, people won't believe me. 345 00:22:14,120 --> 00:22:17,000 But when I understood there was a "pact of silence," 346 00:22:17,000 --> 00:22:19,800 that we were being lied to and that we had to do something, 347 00:22:19,800 --> 00:22:22,080 I told myself, "Time to communicate." 348 00:22:23,760 --> 00:22:25,920 {\an8}Ghyslain Wattrelos, good morning. 349 00:22:25,920 --> 00:22:28,680 {\an8}You're fighting to understand what happened... 350 00:22:28,680 --> 00:22:30,880 {\an8} I accepted every single interview 351 00:22:30,880 --> 00:22:34,840 to say "We're being lied to. Journalists must join in." 352 00:22:34,840 --> 00:22:37,760 It's obvious that, given the information I've received, 353 00:22:37,760 --> 00:22:40,600 there are people whose job is to keep me away from the truth. 354 00:22:43,480 --> 00:22:45,120 {\an8}Until one day I thought, 355 00:22:45,120 --> 00:22:50,400 "I'm not performing at work, so let's quit and go all in on the investigation." 356 00:22:50,400 --> 00:22:51,600 So that's what I did. 357 00:22:51,600 --> 00:22:53,400 Good evening, Ghyslain Wattrelos. 358 00:22:53,400 --> 00:22:56,880 You have lost your wife and your two youngest children... 359 00:22:56,880 --> 00:22:58,480 We're being fed nonsense. 360 00:22:59,320 --> 00:23:01,320 We can't get any information. 361 00:23:01,320 --> 00:23:04,400 We have to get together to do something ourselves. 362 00:23:04,400 --> 00:23:08,000 So that's when we started coordinating with the families. 363 00:23:13,840 --> 00:23:16,040 The families... um... 364 00:23:16,040 --> 00:23:19,360 from different countries gathered, 365 00:23:19,360 --> 00:23:22,320 which was very important. 366 00:23:22,320 --> 00:23:24,880 In doing so, we could make up 367 00:23:25,640 --> 00:23:30,360 for the deficiencies of the non-transparent investigation. 368 00:23:30,360 --> 00:23:31,280 Uh... 369 00:23:31,280 --> 00:23:33,640 and information coming from Malaysia. 370 00:23:33,640 --> 00:23:35,360 It was pretty risky. 371 00:23:35,360 --> 00:23:36,920 It was an investigation. 372 00:23:36,920 --> 00:23:39,520 But we were going against more powerful forces than us. 373 00:23:39,520 --> 00:23:42,000 We're here to hand a petition in to the president 374 00:23:42,000 --> 00:23:43,280 because it's been a year 375 00:23:43,280 --> 00:23:46,040 and they have said nothing and done nothing. 376 00:23:54,280 --> 00:23:57,720 What we did was, we pressed charges for "act of terrorism." 377 00:24:00,080 --> 00:24:01,440 Why an "act of terrorism?" 378 00:24:01,440 --> 00:24:04,480 Well, because terrorism ranks highest 379 00:24:05,760 --> 00:24:07,720 on the hierarchy of judicial matters. 380 00:24:09,240 --> 00:24:12,960 In France, the moment you press charges, judges are assigned 381 00:24:12,960 --> 00:24:15,760 and the judges have to conduct an investigation. 382 00:24:17,800 --> 00:24:19,000 Hello, how are you? 383 00:24:19,000 --> 00:24:20,360 - Very well, and you? - Very well. 384 00:24:28,480 --> 00:24:30,680 The thing you need to realize is that, 385 00:24:30,680 --> 00:24:34,120 across the globe, there's only one source of judicial information. 386 00:24:34,120 --> 00:24:35,040 It's here. 387 00:24:35,800 --> 00:24:38,520 There's a truth to uncover. It's not a mystery. 388 00:24:40,480 --> 00:24:42,400 We owe it to everyone. 389 00:24:42,920 --> 00:24:45,280 Not only to Ghyslain but also to those 390 00:24:46,280 --> 00:24:49,840 who didn't get that opportunity to have investigating magistrates 391 00:24:49,840 --> 00:24:52,240 in their own countries. We owe it to everyone. 392 00:24:54,200 --> 00:24:56,320 I find myself in a fight, 393 00:24:56,320 --> 00:24:58,640 and this fight keeps me going. 394 00:24:58,640 --> 00:25:02,840 I'm just trying to get to the truth, for myself and everybody else. 395 00:25:09,920 --> 00:25:13,000 Many times, the name of Ghyslain Wattrelos, 396 00:25:13,000 --> 00:25:15,160 the French man, the angry French man, 397 00:25:15,160 --> 00:25:17,600 uh, was put out to me. 398 00:25:17,600 --> 00:25:21,760 And eventually, I decided to see for myself what he had to say. 399 00:25:24,080 --> 00:25:25,720 One day, 400 00:25:25,720 --> 00:25:29,680 someone from the newspaper Le Monde contacts me and tells me, 401 00:25:30,200 --> 00:25:34,800 "I'm the correspondent for Le Monde. It would be great if we could chat." 402 00:25:35,560 --> 00:25:38,720 Ghyslain told me that he had been approached by 403 00:25:38,720 --> 00:25:42,880 a senior member of the intelligence service, 404 00:25:42,880 --> 00:25:46,960 who told him that the Americans knew 405 00:25:46,960 --> 00:25:48,800 exactly what had happened. 406 00:25:48,800 --> 00:25:53,000 And that two US AWACS planes were involved. 407 00:25:54,280 --> 00:25:55,880 When I met this source, 408 00:25:56,480 --> 00:25:59,800 I established for myself that he was a credible, 409 00:25:59,800 --> 00:26:03,640 a genuine member of the intelligence community. 410 00:26:05,760 --> 00:26:08,920 He was just one more voice 411 00:26:08,920 --> 00:26:10,240 telling me that 412 00:26:10,240 --> 00:26:12,720 the true story of MH370 413 00:26:12,720 --> 00:26:16,560 is completely different than the official narrative. 414 00:26:25,520 --> 00:26:28,680 There were some kind of fringe characters who were 415 00:26:28,680 --> 00:26:32,320 making noises about maybe the Americans had covered it up. 416 00:26:32,320 --> 00:26:35,120 Um, but especially after what happened to MH17, 417 00:26:35,120 --> 00:26:38,840 it seemed much more likely that the Russians were involved. 418 00:26:40,680 --> 00:26:43,480 Now, originally, thanks to the Inmarsat data, 419 00:26:43,480 --> 00:26:46,760 there were these two routes, north and south. 420 00:26:47,560 --> 00:26:50,280 I started to worry about the possibility 421 00:26:50,280 --> 00:26:53,400 that somebody aboard the plane, 422 00:26:53,400 --> 00:26:56,440 who was sophisticated and had malicious intent, 423 00:26:56,440 --> 00:27:01,200 could have deliberately changed the Inmarsat data, 424 00:27:01,200 --> 00:27:04,240 in order to make the plane look like it went south, 425 00:27:04,240 --> 00:27:05,880 when it really went north. 426 00:27:08,240 --> 00:27:09,680 It turns out 427 00:27:10,360 --> 00:27:12,240 that on Boeing airplanes, 428 00:27:12,240 --> 00:27:16,040 it is physically possible to alter the data, 429 00:27:16,040 --> 00:27:19,920 which allows you to determine which of these two routes is right. 430 00:27:21,120 --> 00:27:23,120 It was a eureka moment. 431 00:27:26,200 --> 00:27:30,400 Because now we have an alternate explanation 432 00:27:31,600 --> 00:27:33,240 for what happened to this plane. 433 00:27:36,560 --> 00:27:38,560 If the plane went north, 434 00:27:38,560 --> 00:27:40,440 it would have wound up 435 00:27:40,440 --> 00:27:43,280 at the final ping in Kazakhstan. 436 00:27:44,680 --> 00:27:49,640 A poor country in Central Asia that is not capable of a sophisticated hacking attack, 437 00:27:50,280 --> 00:27:53,040 but which is a client state of Russia. 438 00:27:54,360 --> 00:27:58,400 Now, remember that Russia had shot down MH17, 439 00:27:58,400 --> 00:28:01,120 a sister airplane of MH370. 440 00:28:01,120 --> 00:28:04,480 It had been blasted out of the sky over eastern Ukraine. 441 00:28:06,000 --> 00:28:09,760 So, my prime suspect 442 00:28:10,400 --> 00:28:15,400 was that the same intelligence service was also involved in MH370. 443 00:28:15,920 --> 00:28:18,360 That, in fact, there was potentially a link 444 00:28:18,360 --> 00:28:21,560 between these two very similar aircraft accidents. 445 00:28:23,040 --> 00:28:24,160 At that point, 446 00:28:24,920 --> 00:28:27,000 I looked in the passenger manifest 447 00:28:27,600 --> 00:28:33,200 and I saw that there were three ethnically Russian men on board the plane that night. 448 00:28:37,200 --> 00:28:39,480 When I looked at the seating diagram, 449 00:28:40,120 --> 00:28:41,320 my eyebrows went up, 450 00:28:42,280 --> 00:28:45,080 because one of them was sitting 451 00:28:45,080 --> 00:28:48,840 about 15 feet from the unlocked hatch into the electronics bay, 452 00:28:48,840 --> 00:28:51,040 at the front of the first-class cabin. 453 00:28:54,400 --> 00:28:59,400 The next question was, "Well, what would the motive be for Russia doing this?" 454 00:29:11,560 --> 00:29:16,760 Reports have surfaced of Russian troops landing in Crimea. 455 00:29:16,760 --> 00:29:20,080 Moscow has indeed gone ahead with an armed invasion of... 456 00:29:20,080 --> 00:29:22,960 MH370 happened in the context 457 00:29:22,960 --> 00:29:27,320 of Russia's invasion of Crimea in 2014. 458 00:29:27,920 --> 00:29:32,040 {\an8}The crisis in the Ukraine has escalated and taken a new turn this morning... 459 00:29:32,040 --> 00:29:35,480 Several hundred Russian troops have landed in the Crimea region. 460 00:29:35,480 --> 00:29:39,200 The networks, the newspapers, the mainline media, everyone 461 00:29:39,920 --> 00:29:42,680 is lasering in on this event. 462 00:29:43,200 --> 00:29:45,920 And when MH370 happened 463 00:29:47,200 --> 00:29:51,760 it had the desirable effect of stopping anybody from talking about that. 464 00:29:52,360 --> 00:29:55,760 Sir, where is the focus of your search right now? 465 00:29:55,760 --> 00:29:57,720 Can you confirm if the plane has turned back? 466 00:29:58,640 --> 00:30:00,280 You can't deny 467 00:30:00,280 --> 00:30:02,440 that the disappearance of MH370 468 00:30:02,440 --> 00:30:06,960 was a perfectly timed and spectacularly convenient distraction 469 00:30:06,960 --> 00:30:11,040 for Russia from the condemnation it was facing from the rest of the world. 470 00:30:13,000 --> 00:30:15,320 As crazy as it seemed, even to me, 471 00:30:15,840 --> 00:30:17,440 I had to keep going 472 00:30:18,040 --> 00:30:20,280 as long as this possibility existed. 473 00:30:20,280 --> 00:30:23,200 So eventually, I laid it all out. 474 00:30:24,080 --> 00:30:25,600 This is how I think it went down. 475 00:30:42,440 --> 00:30:44,440 It's 1:15 in the morning. 476 00:30:45,480 --> 00:30:50,440 Zaharie is flying over the South China Sea in the dark of a cool, calm night. 477 00:30:52,360 --> 00:30:54,840 Passengers, tired and anticipating 478 00:30:54,840 --> 00:30:56,480 a boring overnight flight. 479 00:31:00,160 --> 00:31:02,240 The three Russians aboard the plane 480 00:31:02,760 --> 00:31:04,400 begin their operation. 481 00:31:11,800 --> 00:31:13,640 Somewhere over the South China Sea, 482 00:31:15,640 --> 00:31:17,160 someone's making a ruckus 483 00:31:17,160 --> 00:31:19,000 near the first-class compartment. 484 00:31:19,880 --> 00:31:23,480 The flight attendants hurry to see what's going on. 485 00:31:24,880 --> 00:31:25,840 As this happens, 486 00:31:25,840 --> 00:31:28,360 the Russian in first class slips forward. 487 00:31:40,280 --> 00:31:41,480 He lifts the carpet... 488 00:31:46,080 --> 00:31:47,080 raises a hatch 489 00:31:48,960 --> 00:31:50,760 into the electronics bay. 490 00:32:05,040 --> 00:32:06,320 Down in the hatch, 491 00:32:06,320 --> 00:32:09,200 the Russian is surrounded by banks of computers. 492 00:32:10,960 --> 00:32:14,640 He's in the nerve center of the airplane, the electronic brain. 493 00:32:16,480 --> 00:32:20,240 He plugs into the computer of the plane's flight control system. 494 00:32:27,040 --> 00:32:31,040 The plane moves closer and closer to the edge of Malaysian airspace. 495 00:32:34,880 --> 00:32:38,480 Malaysian 370 contact Ho Chi Minh,120 decimal 9. 496 00:32:38,480 --> 00:32:39,400 Good night. 497 00:32:42,320 --> 00:32:44,760 Uh, good night, Malaysian 370. 498 00:32:52,080 --> 00:32:53,520 The people on board the plane 499 00:32:53,520 --> 00:32:56,320 still have no idea what's happening or why. 500 00:32:58,800 --> 00:33:01,760 Now the plane is in this operational no man's land, 501 00:33:01,760 --> 00:33:03,400 where nobody's looking at them. 502 00:33:05,400 --> 00:33:08,000 Inside the electronics bay, 503 00:33:09,080 --> 00:33:11,520 the Russian agent turns the equipment on. 504 00:33:20,080 --> 00:33:23,600 The plane vanishes from air traffic controllers' radar screens. 505 00:33:28,200 --> 00:33:30,760 He now has complete control of the aircraft. 506 00:33:32,000 --> 00:33:36,080 The captain and the co-pilot are confused as the lights blink on their display. 507 00:33:38,680 --> 00:33:41,760 And none of their communications equipment is working. 508 00:33:43,280 --> 00:33:45,200 And then even more shockingly... 509 00:33:47,880 --> 00:33:51,200 the plane suddenly banks violently to the left. 510 00:33:53,280 --> 00:33:56,240 The plane is in maneuver that neither one of them has commanded. 511 00:34:00,280 --> 00:34:01,760 Down in the electronics bay, 512 00:34:01,760 --> 00:34:02,920 the Russian agent 513 00:34:02,920 --> 00:34:05,480 has started to depressurize the airplane, 514 00:34:05,480 --> 00:34:07,880 letting the air out of the cabin. 515 00:34:08,480 --> 00:34:12,840 At the same time, he turns a knob on an oxygen bottle stowed on the wall, 516 00:34:13,600 --> 00:34:18,440 which cut off the emergency oxygen systems that the pilot and the co-pilot rely on. 517 00:34:21,000 --> 00:34:22,200 In the cabin, 518 00:34:22,800 --> 00:34:25,160 the masks fall down from the ceiling. 519 00:34:27,400 --> 00:34:31,040 The flight crew suddenly realizes that they can't breathe. 520 00:34:38,720 --> 00:34:40,160 In the minutes that follow, 521 00:34:40,160 --> 00:34:43,320 the captain and co-pilot lose consciousness. 522 00:34:48,320 --> 00:34:49,960 And the cabin falls quiet. 523 00:34:58,040 --> 00:35:02,600 The Russian agent in the electronics bay has turned the plane towards the northwest 524 00:35:02,600 --> 00:35:05,880 and deliberately altered the Inmarsat data. 525 00:35:06,400 --> 00:35:08,320 Now, if anyone looks at the 526 00:35:08,320 --> 00:35:11,720 trail of digital breadcrumbs that the plane's about to leave, 527 00:35:11,720 --> 00:35:15,640 they'll misinterpret the signal as meaning that the plane has gone south. 528 00:35:15,640 --> 00:35:18,640 When in fact, their plane is actually going north. 529 00:35:24,960 --> 00:35:28,120 MH370 proceeds onward through the night, 530 00:35:28,120 --> 00:35:31,000 receding gradually from its phantom twin. 531 00:35:33,440 --> 00:35:35,000 And ultimately winding up 532 00:35:36,880 --> 00:35:38,920 over the deserts of central Kazakhstan. 533 00:35:43,080 --> 00:35:45,400 For the hijackers, it's mission accomplished. 534 00:35:52,280 --> 00:35:54,320 I knew that it sounded crazy. 535 00:35:54,320 --> 00:35:56,040 I knew that it was far-fetched. 536 00:35:56,040 --> 00:35:58,400 I knew that people would have a hard time swallowing it, 537 00:35:58,400 --> 00:36:01,240 but even though it might torpedo my reputation, 538 00:36:01,240 --> 00:36:02,840 I felt like I had to go public. 539 00:36:02,840 --> 00:36:06,320 I had to bring people's attention to the problem 540 00:36:06,320 --> 00:36:09,680 that this plane possessed a vulnerability. 541 00:36:10,480 --> 00:36:14,560 {\an8}He thinks it's possible Russian hijackers sent the plane north. 542 00:36:14,560 --> 00:36:17,000 {\an8}Do you really think it went to Kazakhstan? 543 00:36:17,000 --> 00:36:20,800 Well, it's not something I believe. It's a hypothesis that I pieced together. 544 00:36:20,800 --> 00:36:24,080 I went on TV and it was scary. 545 00:36:24,720 --> 00:36:27,400 I felt like my ass was hanging out the window. 546 00:36:27,400 --> 00:36:29,760 What reaction are you getting from this theory? 547 00:36:29,760 --> 00:36:32,920 It's a lot to swallow, I grant you. 548 00:36:32,920 --> 00:36:36,520 {\an8}Are you getting calls from people saying this seems realistic? 549 00:36:36,520 --> 00:36:39,400 {\an8}In the comments sections, a lot of people are outraged, furious. 550 00:36:39,400 --> 00:36:40,880 {\an8}Some people are very angry at me. 551 00:36:40,880 --> 00:36:43,280 {\an8}Nobody goes into the E&E bay, 552 00:36:43,280 --> 00:36:46,960 {\an8}reprograms the BFO, lands in Kazakhstan! 553 00:36:46,960 --> 00:36:49,560 I'm intimately familiar with 554 00:36:49,560 --> 00:36:53,760 how that satellite system works, as are a number of my colleagues, 555 00:36:53,760 --> 00:36:58,040 and we're absolutely certain that the plane turned south and not north. 556 00:36:58,800 --> 00:37:02,000 It was surprising that Jeff decided to 557 00:37:02,000 --> 00:37:03,600 take off on this route. 558 00:37:05,760 --> 00:37:08,240 I was correct in thinking that 559 00:37:08,920 --> 00:37:11,200 I would get a frosty reception from some quarters. 560 00:37:11,200 --> 00:37:12,760 The Independent Group, 561 00:37:12,760 --> 00:37:17,000 which had staked its reputation on the idea that the plane went south, 562 00:37:17,000 --> 00:37:19,800 did not want to brook any opposition from me. 563 00:37:20,600 --> 00:37:21,440 They kicked me out. 564 00:37:24,520 --> 00:37:26,480 Jeff's work, in my opinion, 565 00:37:26,480 --> 00:37:30,880 is simply a fiction that he has woven 566 00:37:30,880 --> 00:37:33,240 and convinced himself is feasible. 567 00:37:33,240 --> 00:37:36,280 But it's all based on fantasies. 568 00:37:36,280 --> 00:37:38,640 It's not based on reality. 569 00:37:41,560 --> 00:37:44,000 I knew the weaknesses of my own case. 570 00:37:44,000 --> 00:37:48,440 And I knew the strengths of my own case. But the proposition that I was making 571 00:37:49,360 --> 00:37:50,600 was easy to ridicule. 572 00:37:51,800 --> 00:37:55,080 You think that somebody possibly tampered with the satellite data. 573 00:37:55,080 --> 00:37:57,440 {\an8}But the company that is behind this system... 574 00:37:57,440 --> 00:37:59,240 {\an8}- I think it's called Inmarsat? - That's right. 575 00:37:59,240 --> 00:38:02,760 {\an8}...says they haven't used this in the past to track planes. 576 00:38:02,760 --> 00:38:05,400 {\an8}The idea that now it's being used and then also tampered with 577 00:38:05,400 --> 00:38:06,720 {\an8}feels far-fetched to them. 578 00:38:08,040 --> 00:38:11,840 The idea that someone, um, predicts 579 00:38:11,840 --> 00:38:15,160 that we would analyze this data in this way, 580 00:38:15,680 --> 00:38:18,880 um, when we'd never done it in the past before, 581 00:38:18,880 --> 00:38:20,600 doesn't seem particularly credible at all. 582 00:38:22,480 --> 00:38:24,720 Anyone who gets into the hatch 583 00:38:24,720 --> 00:38:26,440 can disable the transponder 584 00:38:26,440 --> 00:38:29,600 and disable the communication systems. 585 00:38:30,120 --> 00:38:35,160 But it is impossible to fly the aircraft from the avionics compartment. 586 00:38:35,160 --> 00:38:36,680 It is impossible. 587 00:38:38,480 --> 00:38:39,880 I've gone deep on this. 588 00:38:39,880 --> 00:38:41,000 I know that. 589 00:38:41,760 --> 00:38:44,400 I know it sounds like something out of a Tom Clancy novel. 590 00:38:45,440 --> 00:38:47,600 But the fact is, 591 00:38:47,600 --> 00:38:50,320 even if there's no way that anyone 592 00:38:50,320 --> 00:38:52,960 could fly a plane from the electronics bay, 593 00:38:52,960 --> 00:38:56,360 we know for a fact that it is physically possible, 594 00:38:56,360 --> 00:38:59,880 from inside of it, to turn off all the electronics 595 00:38:59,880 --> 00:39:02,400 that make the plane visible to the outside world. 596 00:39:04,040 --> 00:39:05,320 So my scenario, 597 00:39:05,320 --> 00:39:06,920 as crazy as it might seem, 598 00:39:06,920 --> 00:39:10,160 at least attempted to explain 599 00:39:11,240 --> 00:39:12,960 the disappearance of MH370. 600 00:39:15,000 --> 00:39:16,120 That all gets lost. 601 00:39:16,920 --> 00:39:20,240 And I'm just lumped with the Loch Ness Monster and Bigfoot. 602 00:39:26,040 --> 00:39:28,880 But, the fact is, if the data was right 603 00:39:29,800 --> 00:39:32,160 and it had told us where the plane went, 604 00:39:32,160 --> 00:39:35,480 how come they hadn't managed to find a single piece of it? 605 00:39:35,480 --> 00:39:38,640 If your data is right, the plane should be there. 606 00:39:38,640 --> 00:39:39,960 Where is the plane? 607 00:39:40,680 --> 00:39:43,320 Where is the wreckage? Show me the plane. 608 00:39:45,240 --> 00:39:48,080 This is CNN breaking news. 609 00:39:49,760 --> 00:39:52,800 {\an8}And we are following breaking news just in to CNN. 610 00:39:52,800 --> 00:39:56,480 {\an8}It is too soon to confirm right now, but we can tell you at this point 611 00:39:56,480 --> 00:39:59,520 {\an8}that some debris has been found in La Réunion... 612 00:39:59,520 --> 00:40:02,600 {\an8}La Réunion island is being checked for any connection 613 00:40:02,600 --> 00:40:04,600 to missing Malaysian flight 370. 614 00:40:04,600 --> 00:40:08,560 The piece was found on a rocky beach on the French territory in the Indian Ocean. 615 00:40:08,560 --> 00:40:12,440 {\an8}Boeing's investigators believe it is, in fact, a piece of a wing. 616 00:40:12,440 --> 00:40:14,520 Perhaps a flap from a Boeing 777... 617 00:40:14,520 --> 00:40:16,480 Everyone's wondering, 618 00:40:16,480 --> 00:40:21,040 "Is this a remnant of the missing Malaysia Airlines flight 370?" 619 00:40:22,520 --> 00:40:24,560 When the flaperon was found 620 00:40:25,560 --> 00:40:26,960 I was not surprised. 621 00:40:27,600 --> 00:40:30,320 {\an8}This is exactly what I had said would happen, 622 00:40:30,320 --> 00:40:34,760 {\an8}that the first piece of this plane would be found by someone walking on the beach 623 00:40:34,760 --> 00:40:36,960 somewhere in the Indian Ocean. 624 00:40:38,200 --> 00:40:40,960 New developments involving that piece of debris 625 00:40:40,960 --> 00:40:42,280 discovered off eastern... 626 00:40:42,280 --> 00:40:44,240 I knew immediately 627 00:40:44,240 --> 00:40:46,480 I wanted to be the one to solve it. 628 00:40:47,120 --> 00:40:49,720 I wanted to find the plane wherever it was.