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Good morning. It's 6:00 a.m. on 14th March
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and we are on the freedom flight.
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We are leaving Canada
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and we are headed to Los Angeles.
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Shh!
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Grandma's here.
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-Hi.
-Hi, Grandma.
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Pula's here
with a ball in her mouth.
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I wonder what would have happened
to us had we not got out when we did.
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Our location was exposed.
We knew our security was being pulled.
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Everyone in the world knew where we were.
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Archie, say hi.
We're about to go where Mommy's from.
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So busy.
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I just knew the stress that they were
under. It felt like they were running.
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This is the current situation.
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Thanks to another amazing friend
who we've never met,
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but who believes in us and wants to help.
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Tell me
how you first got in touch with Meghan.
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Um, you know, I'm not a, a royal watcher.
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I… I don't really
pay attention to a lot of stuff,
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but I saw something about her father.
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Posing for the paparazzi…
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In exchange for photos,
he got cash…
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This is tabloid fodder.
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They are going crazy
with this story this morning.
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I found it to be hurtful
if he were my father.
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And I couldn't even imagine
this woman finding the man that she loved,
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the man of her dreams
and him being a prince,
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and then to walk into all of that madness
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and need the security of family,
and then have,
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you know,
your father do some horrible things.
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We just broke a big, fat story.
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It says it clearly.
Meghan's dad not going to the wedding.
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When my life changed
and success started to come,
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family members became different people.
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And I know how hurtful
and how horrible it can be.
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I immediately empathized with her.
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This was before the wedding.
And I sent her a note,
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just praying for her
just to be able to move through it
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and hold on, and let her know
that everything in her life
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had prepared her for this moment,
or so I thought.
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That's where Tyler came into
the picture. I'd never met him before.
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He sent me a letter before the wedding
just saying he was praying for me.
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And that if I ever need anything,
he would be there.
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Months and months
and months went by.
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Okay. Go on.
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And then one day,
when we were in Canada, I had called him.
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Finally, after years at that point,
first time we ever spoke…
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and I was just a wreck,
I was just crying and crying.
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Sometimes it's easier to just open up
to someone who knows nothing at all.
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And that was that moment
with me and Tyler.
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I could hear the fear.
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It was palpable. I mean, I could hear it.
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So I asked her, what was she afraid of?
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And she took a deep breath and she started
listing the things, "I'm afraid of…"
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And I said to her,
"Every one of your fears are valid."
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You know, the most that I knew
about the royal family
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was around Princess Diana's death.
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Get down.
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No.
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One without
the tennis racket?
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-No.
-Please.
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There's a moment I'll never forget
where she's walking through the airport
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and she has a tennis racket
in front of her face
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and she's trying to get away
from the press, and they're all over her.
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And I realized that,
after the marriage ended,
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she was thrown to the wolves.
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-Out. Out.
-Out, out. Out.
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-Out. Out. O-U-T, out.
-Have a nice trip, ma'am.
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So to tell Meghan
that I felt her feelings were valid hurt.
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I didn't want to have to say that to her.
I didn't want her to feel that.
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But I didn't want to lie to her.
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She was afraid
of them destroying her, or going crazy,
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or them making her think she was crazy.
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British public opinion
is that it's all Meghan's fault.
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-She's a controlling woman.
The tabloids have turned.
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I saw my mother
be abused for years.
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I knew the symptoms.
I knew what it was like.
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Everyone's like, "Tyler, how dare you
compare this to the abuse of your mother?"
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This woman was abused. And so was he.
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They're trying
to upset everybody.
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The Queen will be feeling
very let down and very angry.
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-…blindsided…
-No idea the statement was coming.
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To use the institution to try
and do all the things a batterer would do,
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like, "We're gonna cut off the money.
We're gonna not leave you security."
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"We're gonna do all those things
to make you comply and come back."
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And for the both of them
to have the wherewithal to say,
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"I don't give a damn if it's the palace.
I'm out of here," I applauded that.
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We stayed in touch,
and when we needed to go, he said,
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"What can we do to make it easier?
How can I help you?"
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So this was like
a week before COVID.
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And we'd be stuck at this house
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where everyone in the world knew
where we were. Unprotected, no security.
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They just wanted to be free.
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They wanted to be free
to love and be happy.
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They didn't… They did not have a plan.
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Everyone's like, "Oh, there's this…"
There was no plan.
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He's like, "My house is safe.
I'll make sure you have security."
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"Take your time."
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I was like, "If we could stay for a week,
then we can find somewhere we can live."
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He's like, "You're not gonna stay a week.
You're gonna stay as long as you need."
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"I'm gonna get you there safely."
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"And I'm gonna keep you there safely
until you have somewhere to go."
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For the first six weeks that we were here,
we were able to walk around like this.
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-Yeah.
-The two of us would be up here.
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-Archie, sort of walking along here.
-Yeah.
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The dogs running around.
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You hadn't seen the house.
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We only saw you filming
from the gate up to your door
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and seeing the big fountain there.
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-We're like, "That'll do." Just like…
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What if I had horrible taste
and a big, round bed with stripper poles?
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It wouldn't have…
It wouldn't have mattered.
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We were so…
We were desperate to find someone…
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-Desperate to be somewhere for…
-Yeah.
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-You know, a long…
-To settle.
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We had… We had… We had, um…
We had 13 suitcases, I remember.
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You said, "Stay as long as you need to."
We're like, "Maybe we just stay forever."
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-Good boy, Guy.
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So we finally get
a little slice of freedom.
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How you feeling, my love?
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Will you go long ways?
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-I think it's better.
-Ever the director.
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It was bliss.
Because no one knew we were there.
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I spy our security guy.
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-Where is he?
-Matt's hiding in the bush.
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-Do you see? He's right there.
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Look at it.
It's amazing we found this place.
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Guy!
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It's secret,
and so at least during COVID-19,
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we can take the dogs for a walk
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and have a little slice of normal life.
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Come on! Come on.
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Let's get back home to Archie.
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And then we've been…
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My family.
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Hey!
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For me, it didn't matter
where they landed, you know. I…
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I just wanted them to be happy,
and so that I could be with them.
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And obviously not having to take any
long flights made a heck of a difference.
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Where are we walking?
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Ay, ay, ay, ay, ay.
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Archie took
his very first steps right here.
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-I mean, this house was…
-Here.
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Right here.
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-What's going on, my love?
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We are making this balloon arch
for Archie's first birthday--
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-It doesn't look like an arch.
-It'll get there.
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-Will it?
-We have to blow all these up.
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-Hey!
-And use these.
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And… follow the instructions.
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Great.
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We were there for six weeks.
No one knew.
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My family still thought I was in Canada.
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Every day, I would look on the…
Google. "Nope, they don't know yet!"
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We talked and they'd laugh, and they were
doing so well. They'd send me videos.
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Our son turned one today.
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-And it's beautiful out.
-It's gorgeous out.
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And it's not our home.
But we're grateful.
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But there's a world
in which it could be our home.
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Tyler Perry joins us now from Atlanta.
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It's been widely reported
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that Meghan and Harry are living
at your place in Los Angeles.
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Can you tell us how they're doing?
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-You speak English?
-I'm sorry.
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I think I just lost…
I just lost you. I just lost you, Gayle.
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I'm sorry. We have a bad,
really bad connection.
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So, here we are,
two days after Archie's birthday,
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uh, and a day after the Mail…
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And a day after the Mail, um,
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once again pinpointed our location
and put it on their website.
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It was six weeks into us
being in Canada that they found out,
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and it was six weeks to us being
in Tyler's house that they found out.
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Anyway, let me
just show you what we're having to now do.
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And these large poles are basically
the construction of a fence
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to stop paparazzi from taking photographs
from three, four hundred meters away.
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And as ridiculous
and as absurd as this is,
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you kind of have to laugh about it,
because it is madness.
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It's almost five in the morning.
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Archie's waking up because of this.
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Oh my God. They're just circling.
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What is wrong with these people?
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I've been
in that house for many, many years,
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and across the canyon
are all these other celebrities,
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and no one had seen an assault like this.
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Haz, is my mom
outside with Archie?
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With helicopters 24/7.
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-The second one today.
-Drones flying over it.
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We would go up every day,
the chain link on the fence would be cut
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and people would sneak in
onto my property.
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I had to put all the cameras up
on the hill there.
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Had to plant more trees, all just…
Just… It was just… It was crazy.
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What are you doing?
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I am writing more things, um…
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to battle the Mail.
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And their insanity.
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This entire case
against Associated Newspapers
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which has the Mail and the Mail Online,
it was about a letter I wrote to my dad.
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The Mail published it.
They know that it's unlawful to do so.
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That's all this is about.
Just apologize… and don't do it again.
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It's really that simple.
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But instead it's like, "Or…"
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"…let's make a fortune."
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"Let's create an entire tab
on our homepage with her name…"
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"…and just run constant stuff
on this litigation,
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and twist and turn things to create
an implant with members of the public."
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They're saying this was
all part of my strategy and tactic
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to have a better reputation.
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Then the defense says,
"We'd like disclosure from you."
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"We need to access
your email and your phone
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for this case, based on these terms,"
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"I love you."
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"Archie."
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"Kate."
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"William."
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-"Africa."
-"Africa."
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Sorry, what? What does
that have to do with this lawsuit?
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My darling wife has just been sent
the skeleton argument
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of the ridiculousness of the Mail case.
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Archie wasn't even born when you
published the letter I wrote to my dad.
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-They are making a fortune off of us.
-The press will never settle.
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They will always push,
because they will use a privacy litigation
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to further invade your privacy,
like they did with my wife.
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But my mum always said,
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"If they're writing crap about you
in the tabloids,
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you're probably doing the right thing."
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So I've always felt as though
this was a fight worth fighting for.
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The tabloids pretty much
run the argument that,
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if you're in the public eye,
you've given up your rights to privacy.
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In this case, the Mail on Sunday
ran the whole kitchen sink defense.
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They threw everything in.
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Things like, "Um, Meghan's not entitled
to any privacy,
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because she's a member
of the royal family."
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"If she didn't want us
to publish her letter,
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she should have been nicer to her father."
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How many people…
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Meghan and I would be texting
at 1 a.m. or 3 a.m. her time.
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She'd be awake, unable to sleep,
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thinking about this case,
and the wider issues,
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and the toll it was taking.
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The couple's war
with the tabloids now escalating.
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Harry and Meghan are going
to have to give up more intimate details
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to prove their case, and therefore,
it does seem a bit self-defeating.
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I knew the stress the latest
development was having on Meghan,
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and that was that the Mail
were going to argue that Meghan's friends
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had already spoken
about the letter to People Magazine
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and that Meghan had authorized
that interview, which she hadn't.
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Meghan is going to deny
any involvement in interviews
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given by five of her friends
to People Magazine.
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I don't know
how many pages the article itself was,
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but within it there were,
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I think, a few sentences
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that pertained to my father
and the fact that I'd reached out to him.
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We all knew that Meghan
had written her father a letter.
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I did not catch
in that People Magazine story
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that someone mentioned the letter.
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It was this People story
that referenced Thomas Markle's letter
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and prompted him
to share it with the Mail on Sunday.
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You even do something in total love,
and that is for good,
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and they find one piece,
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and then it becomes
this whole other thing.
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They ran the false claim
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that Meghan had authorized
this interview with People Magazine.
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So the argument was she had
therefore given up all rights,
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anything to do with the letter whatsoever.
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And Associated said all of her friends'
identities should be revealed
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as part of the case.
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I said, "Absolutely not."
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I just felt it was important
to protect them
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in the way
that they were trying to protect me.
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And that was right in the same week that
we moved into our home in Santa Barbara.
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I'm driving up like, "We're
gonna unpack. We're gonna get settled."
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And Meg is standing outside, waiting
for me, and I can tell something's off.
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She's showing me the home.
It's very mixed emotions,
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"Here's our new home," but she's like,
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"I'm having a lot of pain."
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She was holding Archie
and she just fell to the ground and…
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I was pregnant, I really wasn't sleeping.
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And, um…
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The first morning that we woke up
in our new home is when I miscarried.
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I believe my wife suffered a
miscarriage because of what the Mail did.
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I watched the whole thing.
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Now, do we absolutely know that the
miscarriage was created, caused by that?
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Course we don't.
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But bearing in mind
the stress that that caused,
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the lack of sleep,
and the timing of the pregnancy,
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how many weeks in she was,
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I can say, from what I saw,
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that miscarriage was created
by what they were trying to do to her.
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I thought
she was brave and courageous.
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But that doesn't surprise me,
because she is brave and courageous.
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Yeah.
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When I reveal things
that are moments of vulnerability,
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when it comes to having a miscarriage
and maybe having felt ashamed about that,
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like, "It's okay. You're human.
It's okay to talk about that."
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And I could make the choice
to never talk about those things,
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or I could make the choice to say,
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"With all the bad that comes with this,
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the good is being able
to help other people."
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That's the point of life, right?
Is connection and community like that.
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It really resonates
when you read about her in hospital
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with her husband, Prince Harry.
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Uh, she describes him as heartbroken,
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trying to think what she can ask him,
and she simply says, "Are you okay?"
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Everybody can relate
to that question, "Are you okay?"
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And do we ask it
to each other often enough?
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The piece
is also very much a rallying cry
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for people to support each other
during what she describes
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as "a year of loss
and pain for every one of us."
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Buckingham Palace says it won't be
commenting on a deeply personal matter.
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Archie, come say hi to the team.
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Say, "Hi, James."
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Hi, James.
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-"Hi, Michael."
-Hi, Michael.
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-And "Hi, Christine."
-Hi, Christine.
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-Oh!
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-That's so good!
-Good job.
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Uh, it's been… It's been…
It's been a busy week!
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It's been a week.
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They wanted to continue
with their non-royal patronages
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and causes around mental health,
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around the environment,
around gender equity.
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I love investing in female entrepreneurs,
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so this is the kind of stuff
I spend a lot of time looking at.
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Increasingly,
as the pandemic started to take hold,
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around vaccine equity.
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My wife and I believe…
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My wife and I believe
that where you're born
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should not dictate
your ability to survive.
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And it was really
a kind of fact-finding exercise
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about the areas
that they could be activists around,
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and the areas
where they could convene groups together.
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We've partnered with the team here
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to create the NAACP
Archewell Digital Civil Rights Award.
335
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I mean, one of the things
that we've continued to say
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is if we're gonna have this glaring
microscope on us at all times,
337
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if people are looking at us,
then look at what we're looking at.
338
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The only wrong thing to say
is to say nothing.
339
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Because… George Floyd's life mattered,
and Breonna Taylor's life mattered,
340
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and Philando Castile's life mattered,
and Tamir Rice's life mattered.
341
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Oh my gosh.
342
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And so did so many other people
343
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whose names we know
and whose names we do not know.
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This is the police chief.
Have you ever heard that in your life?
345
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I know, sometimes people say,
"How many times do we need to rebuild?"
346
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Well, you know what?
We are going to rebuild
347
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and rebuild and rebuild
until it is rebuilt.
348
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What's Papa doing?
Are we getting oranges?
349
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Are you… Yes.
Can you put them in the basket?
350
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Ready? Catch. Oh.
351
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I know. There's Pula.
352
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No, let's go.
353
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Nice try.
Are you trying to bunt the ball?
354
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Hello. Bonjour.
355
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-We've gone rogue.
-We've gone rogue.
356
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See us come down here.
357
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We're gonna have the beach to ourself,
or there's gonna be, like, a filming set
358
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on the beach we've just walked to.
359
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He's so fun.
360
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This is really cold. Woo!
361
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-And also, we're pregnant.
362
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-Oh, my goodness. My love.
363
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Beautiful. Our own beach.
364
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It was funny, because I'm talking
and they both look a little smirky.
365
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A little like, "Hm."
And I was like, "Something's…"
366
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Like, they're smiling a bit too much.
It's a Zoom.
367
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You know, "What's going on?"
368
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And um, near the end of the Zoom,
you know, Meg stands up.
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I just freak out. I freak out.
370
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Because I know what they've
been through to get to that place.
371
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And, uh, they're like, "It's gotta be you,
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helping us tell the world
that we have new life in our lives."
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It felt,
at least I could do something
374
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to use my imagery
to almost protect them if I could.
375
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Once we announced it,
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I got two messages
from two completely different people
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who sent me the front page
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of Valentine's Day, 1984,
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of my mother announcing
that she was pregnant with me.
380
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I was shocked.
381
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We had no idea. It was just a coincidence.
382
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Or maybe not a coincidence.
383
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On the heels of Harry
and Meghan's pregnancy announcement,
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the couple will now share
their story publicly,
385
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giving Oprah Winfrey their first interview
since they stepped away from…
386
00:27:01,661 --> 00:27:05,624
Tell us about the thinking
about sitting with Oprah.
387
00:27:05,707 --> 00:27:10,337
Um, well, Oprah had
originally reached out to us
388
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through the communications director
at Kensington Palace.
389
00:27:13,048 --> 00:27:16,051
There was excitement. I remember that.
And then I think we talked--
390
00:27:16,134 --> 00:27:18,887
Well, yeah, 'cause Oprah…
Oprah, to you, is like…
391
00:27:18,970 --> 00:27:20,013
-It's Oprah!
-Yeah.
392
00:27:20,889 --> 00:27:24,434
-No way.
393
00:27:24,517 --> 00:27:27,729
-Thank you.
394
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Yay! Yay!
395
00:27:32,359 --> 00:27:36,404
The timing of when we would talk to her
just kept changing.
396
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-We made it to the beach.
-We made it to the beach.
397
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Doing what everybody else does.
398
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We were here for a year.
399
00:27:49,000 --> 00:27:50,126
We've got chickens!
400
00:27:51,086 --> 00:27:52,587
Until we actually did it.
401
00:27:52,671 --> 00:27:57,342
And sitting down with Oprah was a reaction
to what had happened that year.
402
00:27:57,425 --> 00:28:02,681
The more distance that came between us
having a smaller role with the institution
403
00:28:02,764 --> 00:28:05,475
and coming over here,
the more of a vacuum was being built.
404
00:28:05,558 --> 00:28:08,978
And people just genuinely
didn't understand why we left.
405
00:28:09,062 --> 00:28:12,315
We thought that was the beginning of
our year of transition, which it turns out
406
00:28:12,399 --> 00:28:14,275
was anything but a transition.
407
00:28:14,943 --> 00:28:16,778
It was just a beating.
408
00:28:17,570 --> 00:28:20,615
They are three of the most
recognizable people on the planet.
409
00:28:20,699 --> 00:28:23,034
Oprah, Prince Harry and Meghan Markle.
410
00:28:23,118 --> 00:28:26,621
And they're now coming together for one
of the biggest interviews of the decade.
411
00:28:27,247 --> 00:28:30,625
But before that sit-down
is set to premiere, Buckingham Palace,
412
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in an unprecedented move,
413
00:28:32,168 --> 00:28:36,297
opened an investigation
into bullying allegations against Meghan.
414
00:28:36,798 --> 00:28:39,092
The timing of the bullying story
415
00:28:40,135 --> 00:28:45,557
has even been admitted
by the journalist that wrote it
416
00:28:45,640 --> 00:28:47,142
that it was done
417
00:28:48,226 --> 00:28:51,396
explicitly because of the Oprah interview.
418
00:28:51,479 --> 00:28:54,315
Harry and Meghan's spokesperson
tells us and The Times this,
419
00:28:54,399 --> 00:28:58,236
"The Duchess is saddened
by this latest attack on her character,
420
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particularly as someone who has been
the target of bullying herself
421
00:29:02,073 --> 00:29:03,992
and is deeply committed
to supporting those
422
00:29:04,075 --> 00:29:06,411
who have experienced pain and trauma."
423
00:29:06,494 --> 00:29:07,746
"Let's just call it what it is."
424
00:29:07,829 --> 00:29:12,542
"A calculated smear campaign based on
misleading and harmful misinformation."
425
00:29:12,625 --> 00:29:17,547
You could tell… I was like, "Oh my gosh,
someone's panicking over there."
426
00:29:17,630 --> 00:29:22,385
A long-simmering feud between
Harry and Meghan, and palace staff,
427
00:29:22,469 --> 00:29:25,180
people Princess Diana called
"the men in grey suits",
428
00:29:25,263 --> 00:29:29,100
is boiling over with this
explosive interview with Oprah Winfrey.
429
00:29:29,184 --> 00:29:33,521
I can't think what my mum went through
all those years ago by herself.
430
00:29:34,856 --> 00:29:40,820
To see this institutional
gaslighting that happens is…
431
00:29:40,904 --> 00:29:42,822
It is extraordinary.
432
00:29:42,906 --> 00:29:46,743
Um, and that's why
everything that's happened to us
433
00:29:47,452 --> 00:29:49,078
was always gonna happen to us.
434
00:29:49,162 --> 00:29:52,874
Because if you speak truth to power,
that's how they respond.
435
00:29:53,792 --> 00:29:57,796
Tonight, for the first time,
they tell their story.
436
00:29:58,463 --> 00:30:02,008
That interview, it was less
about setting the record straight
437
00:30:02,091 --> 00:30:06,513
than at least filling in the blanks
that other people were filling in for us.
438
00:30:06,596 --> 00:30:09,641
…and when you say,
"Was it what it looked like?"
439
00:30:10,350 --> 00:30:13,061
My understanding and my experience
of the past four years
440
00:30:13,144 --> 00:30:15,021
is it's nothing like what it looks like.
441
00:30:15,104 --> 00:30:19,192
Whatever we were creating and whatever
new path we were trying to forge,
442
00:30:19,275 --> 00:30:22,320
you couldn't really do that
without some clarity.
443
00:30:23,279 --> 00:30:26,783
So how does that work?
Were you told to keep silent?
444
00:30:26,866 --> 00:30:29,285
How were you told to handle tabloids?
445
00:30:29,369 --> 00:30:34,666
Everyone in my world, um,
was given a very clear directive
446
00:30:34,749 --> 00:30:36,960
from the moment
the world knew Harry and I were dating
447
00:30:37,043 --> 00:30:38,336
to always say, "No comment."
448
00:30:38,419 --> 00:30:40,088
-And we did.
-Mm-hm.
449
00:30:40,171 --> 00:30:42,340
I did anything they told me to do.
Of course I did.
450
00:30:42,423 --> 00:30:46,052
Because it was also through the lens of,
"And we'll protect you."
451
00:30:46,594 --> 00:30:52,475
There's a conversation
about how dark your baby is going to be?
452
00:30:53,977 --> 00:30:57,438
That conversation
I am never going to share.
453
00:30:57,522 --> 00:31:03,403
You said in a podcast
that it became almost un-survivable.
454
00:31:04,070 --> 00:31:10,243
And that struck me, because it sounds like
you were in some kind of mental trouble.
455
00:31:10,326 --> 00:31:11,953
What was actually going on?
456
00:31:12,537 --> 00:31:14,664
I would sit up at night,
and I was just like,
457
00:31:14,747 --> 00:31:17,750
"I don't understand
how all of this is being churned out."
458
00:31:17,834 --> 00:31:18,793
I wasn't seeing it,
459
00:31:18,877 --> 00:31:24,090
but it's almost worse when you feel it
through the expression of my mom
460
00:31:24,173 --> 00:31:26,551
or my friends,
or them calling me crying, just like,
461
00:31:26,634 --> 00:31:29,721
"Meg. They're not protecting you."
462
00:31:29,804 --> 00:31:35,810
And I realized that it was all happening
just because I was breathing,
463
00:31:35,894 --> 00:31:39,522
and I just didn't…
I just didn't want to be alive anymore.
464
00:31:40,899 --> 00:31:45,278
We didn't see it until the world saw it.
And it's interesting.
465
00:31:48,907 --> 00:31:53,745
I thought that me being very open about
466
00:31:55,538 --> 00:32:00,418
the depression that I experienced
and just how extreme that became…
467
00:32:00,501 --> 00:32:02,587
I thought that would be
the biggest takeaway.
468
00:32:02,670 --> 00:32:06,090
Thank you both
for trusting me to share your story.
469
00:32:06,174 --> 00:32:08,343
Thank you
for giving us the space to do it.
470
00:32:08,426 --> 00:32:09,469
Thank you.
471
00:32:12,388 --> 00:32:15,016
Oh my God.
472
00:32:15,099 --> 00:32:19,354
But it was entirely eclipsed
by the conversation surrounding race.
473
00:32:43,795 --> 00:32:44,754
Hey, Mommy.
474
00:32:44,837 --> 00:32:45,964
Hey, what's going on?
475
00:32:46,047 --> 00:32:48,091
Not much.
I saw I missed you. Where are you?
476
00:32:48,174 --> 00:32:51,177
I just finished walking…
Finishing walking the dog.
477
00:32:51,260 --> 00:32:55,348
Nice. Has it been… Has it been noisy
around your house? Is anyone there?
478
00:32:55,431 --> 00:32:57,684
-No. Actually, no.
-Good. Good.
479
00:32:57,767 --> 00:33:01,104
Which has been nice.
Yeah, I feel proud.
480
00:33:01,187 --> 00:33:03,564
You certainly never deserved any of this.
481
00:33:03,648 --> 00:33:07,735
I mean, I've been getting tons of texts
about how people are so
482
00:33:08,861 --> 00:33:12,365
in support of you and how you were able
to carry yourself so well.
483
00:33:13,241 --> 00:33:14,701
-Thank you.
-Yeah.
484
00:33:14,784 --> 00:33:16,285
Keep your big girl panties on.
485
00:33:16,369 --> 00:33:18,079
Thank you. I will.
486
00:33:18,162 --> 00:33:20,415
-Okay, I love you.
-The biggest. I love you too.
487
00:33:20,498 --> 00:33:21,833
-Bye.
-Bye.
488
00:33:26,087 --> 00:33:28,381
-Beyoncé just texted.
489
00:33:28,464 --> 00:33:30,341
Really…
490
00:33:30,425 --> 00:33:32,260
-Shut up.
-Just checking in.
491
00:33:32,885 --> 00:33:34,887
Just checking in. Just casual.
492
00:33:34,971 --> 00:33:38,141
I still can't believe…
I still can't believe she knows who I am.
493
00:33:39,976 --> 00:33:41,269
Go and call her.
494
00:33:41,352 --> 00:33:45,898
No, it's okay. She said
she wants me to feel safe and protected.
495
00:33:45,982 --> 00:33:49,193
She admires and respects
my bravery and vulnerability
496
00:33:49,277 --> 00:33:51,404
and thinks I was selected
to break generational curses
497
00:33:51,487 --> 00:33:52,739
that need to be healed.
498
00:33:54,240 --> 00:33:55,241
Hmm.
499
00:33:55,324 --> 00:33:56,242
That's well said.
500
00:33:59,579 --> 00:34:02,081
Have you spoken
to your brother since the interview?
501
00:34:02,165 --> 00:34:04,625
I haven't
spoken with him yet, but I will do.
502
00:34:04,709 --> 00:34:08,588
And can you let me know,
is the royal family a racist family, sir?
503
00:34:09,088 --> 00:34:10,548
We're very much not.
504
00:34:11,299 --> 00:34:13,676
Sir, what did you think
of the interview?
505
00:34:13,760 --> 00:34:15,470
Oh. Thank you very much.
506
00:34:16,220 --> 00:34:17,555
When I watched, I thought…
507
00:34:19,390 --> 00:34:21,392
"There's so much more
she could have said."
508
00:34:22,018 --> 00:34:27,815
But because she's such a classy,
elegant woman, she didn't.
509
00:34:27,899 --> 00:34:29,442
-Hey.
-Hi.
510
00:34:30,401 --> 00:34:33,321
The Palace issued a statement,
I understand, but I haven't read it.
511
00:34:33,404 --> 00:34:34,947
Yeah, let me pull it up.
512
00:34:39,952 --> 00:34:40,870
The following statement
513
00:34:40,953 --> 00:34:43,831
issued by Buckingham Palace
on behalf of Her Majesty the Queen.
514
00:34:44,332 --> 00:34:47,293
"The whole family is saddened
to learn the full extent
515
00:34:47,376 --> 00:34:50,713
of how challenging the last few years
have been for Harry and Meghan."
516
00:34:51,589 --> 00:34:55,218
"The issues raised, particularly
that of race, are concerning."
517
00:34:55,760 --> 00:34:58,346
"While some recollections may vary,
518
00:34:58,429 --> 00:35:02,683
they are taken very seriously and will be
addressed by the family privately."
519
00:35:02,767 --> 00:35:06,604
"Harry, Meghan and Archie
will always be much-loved family members."
520
00:35:08,940 --> 00:35:10,108
What am I looking at?
521
00:35:13,194 --> 00:35:14,695
-Wow.
522
00:35:15,696 --> 00:35:18,366
H just got a text…
H just got a text from his brother.
523
00:35:19,575 --> 00:35:21,828
Oh. Yeah. Okay. You guys do that.
524
00:35:21,911 --> 00:35:23,913
All right, I'll talk to you later on.
Thank you.
525
00:35:23,996 --> 00:35:26,040
I'll see you guys--
-We'll see you on Friday.
526
00:35:26,124 --> 00:35:28,459
Okay, bye. Thank you, thank you. Bye.
527
00:35:29,877 --> 00:35:31,212
I wish I knew what to do.
528
00:35:31,295 --> 00:35:35,091
I know. Let's take a breather.
Get some air and then decide.
529
00:35:35,967 --> 00:35:37,051
Um…
530
00:35:54,026 --> 00:35:59,031
I can put them in um, separate little bags
so we can divide and conquer.
531
00:35:59,115 --> 00:36:02,076
Hey, Grandma. Have we decided
what the course is gonna be?
532
00:36:02,160 --> 00:36:05,329
I think what makes the most sense
is to have them start right here.
533
00:36:05,413 --> 00:36:06,873
-By the bridge?
-Yep.
534
00:36:06,956 --> 00:36:09,167
-So down, down that side--
-Let's go outside and--
535
00:36:09,250 --> 00:36:12,044
Back across the bridge, up the side
of the stream to this bridge here.
536
00:36:12,128 --> 00:36:13,379
-Mm-hm.
-Great. Love it.
537
00:36:13,880 --> 00:36:15,923
Done, easy. That's why we're married.
538
00:36:18,509 --> 00:36:19,385
All for that?
539
00:36:20,219 --> 00:36:21,929
The simplicity, really.
540
00:36:25,975 --> 00:36:27,727
Come on, family. Let's go.
541
00:37:15,983 --> 00:37:19,028
My grandfather always cruised around
in a black taxi in London.
542
00:37:19,111 --> 00:37:21,489
So all of the black taxis have…
543
00:37:24,700 --> 00:37:28,329
lined up all the way down the Mall
outside Buckingham Palace.
544
00:37:29,080 --> 00:37:30,539
I don't know if you can see it.
545
00:37:32,375 --> 00:37:35,378
Have a look at this.
This is outside the palace now.
546
00:37:36,254 --> 00:37:40,132
Every single black cab in London,
looks like they're paying their respects.
547
00:37:40,716 --> 00:37:43,427
Who'd have thought
about that, eh? Incredible.
548
00:37:48,516 --> 00:37:50,601
Unbelievable, innit? Look, as far…
549
00:37:50,685 --> 00:37:51,727
That's nice.
550
00:37:52,853 --> 00:37:54,855
Oh my God. How is it ten to twelve?
551
00:37:55,398 --> 00:37:57,692
-Um…
552
00:37:58,609 --> 00:38:03,614
Quickly… I looked at the, um, UK website
553
00:38:03,698 --> 00:38:06,826
about the access to be able
to have a shorter quarantine period.
554
00:38:06,909 --> 00:38:07,743
Yeah.
555
00:38:07,827 --> 00:38:12,206
The earliest you can do the test
upon landing is five days after you land.
556
00:38:13,582 --> 00:38:15,626
-So you have to leave tomorrow.
-Okay.
557
00:38:15,710 --> 00:38:16,877
And get tested Friday.
558
00:38:16,961 --> 00:38:18,796
-Can I get out tomorrow?
-Yeah.
559
00:38:18,879 --> 00:38:19,714
Okay.
560
00:38:19,797 --> 00:38:22,883
Same flight, Maddie's
on the phone with American Airlines now.
561
00:38:54,665 --> 00:38:58,377
My grandfather was a man
of service, honor, and great humor.
562
00:38:59,003 --> 00:39:01,881
He will be remembered as the
longest reigning consort to the monarch,
563
00:39:02,381 --> 00:39:05,885
a decorated serviceman,
a prince, and a duke.
564
00:39:07,678 --> 00:39:09,847
But to me, he was my grandpa.
565
00:39:10,389 --> 00:39:15,227
Master of the barbecue, legend of banter,
and cheeky right till the end.
566
00:39:17,980 --> 00:39:21,567
Harry's respect
for his grandfather
567
00:39:21,650 --> 00:39:23,778
was monumentally deep,
568
00:39:23,861 --> 00:39:30,201
and I think a lot of the characteristics
that, you know, I love in Harry
569
00:39:30,284 --> 00:39:33,037
are slightly grandfather related.
570
00:39:33,120 --> 00:39:35,373
You know,
that ability to put people at ease,
571
00:39:35,456 --> 00:39:38,042
to be fun and to not be stiff and serious,
572
00:39:38,125 --> 00:39:39,460
I think come from him.
573
00:39:43,881 --> 00:39:48,928
-I know the admiration was huge.
574
00:39:56,685 --> 00:39:59,313
To be walking behind the coffin again
575
00:40:00,022 --> 00:40:03,275
must have brought up
some other stuff as well.
576
00:40:03,359 --> 00:40:07,363
I don't have the, uh, qualifications to
unpick that, but it must have been a lot.
577
00:40:19,917 --> 00:40:22,211
I was actually
really happy for my grandfather.
578
00:40:25,297 --> 00:40:28,467
He went quietly.
He went peacefully. He went happily.
579
00:40:35,474 --> 00:40:37,309
Tell me about going back.
580
00:40:38,769 --> 00:40:39,728
What was that like?
581
00:40:40,604 --> 00:40:43,107
Um, it was hard.
582
00:40:43,899 --> 00:40:47,611
Especially spending time, having
chats with my brother and my father,
583
00:40:47,695 --> 00:40:50,239
who just, you know, were very much,
584
00:40:51,240 --> 00:40:54,702
um, focused on the same
misinterpretation of the whole situation.
585
00:40:54,785 --> 00:40:57,496
So neither… None of us really wanted
to have to talk about it
586
00:40:57,580 --> 00:40:59,957
at my grandfather's funeral, but we did.
587
00:41:00,040 --> 00:41:03,461
Um, and, you know,
I've had to make peace with the fact
588
00:41:03,544 --> 00:41:06,338
that we're probably
never gonna get genuine accountability
589
00:41:06,422 --> 00:41:07,590
or a genuine apology.
590
00:41:08,132 --> 00:41:10,676
You know, my wife and I, we're…
We're moving on.
591
00:41:10,759 --> 00:41:14,346
We're focused on the…
On what's coming next.
592
00:41:33,282 --> 00:41:34,909
-It's okay.
-It's okay.
593
00:41:34,992 --> 00:41:38,787
Here we go.
You ready to eat? Let's have some milk.
594
00:41:39,538 --> 00:41:40,581
Oh.
595
00:41:43,250 --> 00:41:44,168
Oh.
596
00:41:49,381 --> 00:41:50,466
Hi, Lili.
597
00:42:02,102 --> 00:42:06,774
There was something that felt
so complete once we had Lilibet.
598
00:42:14,281 --> 00:42:17,660
Everyone just really respected
that we've been through so much
599
00:42:17,743 --> 00:42:20,371
and that we, like any parent,
600
00:42:20,454 --> 00:42:23,624
deserve to just welcome their child
into the world peacefully,
601
00:42:23,707 --> 00:42:27,169
and have that time as a family
to nurture and cocoon.
602
00:42:28,587 --> 00:42:32,967
Which we did,
with the addition of our little toddler.
603
00:42:33,050 --> 00:42:37,137
Flowers for Mommy?
Thank you. Can I have a kiss?
604
00:42:38,430 --> 00:42:41,892
I think at the moment,
I see a lot of my wife in Archie.
605
00:42:41,976 --> 00:42:45,145
-I see a lot of my mum in Lili.
-Mm.
606
00:42:45,229 --> 00:42:49,066
She's very Spencer-like.
She's got the same blue eyes.
607
00:42:49,149 --> 00:42:50,693
Blue, blue, blue eyes.
608
00:42:50,776 --> 00:42:54,405
Sort of like a… golden-reddish hair.
609
00:42:54,488 --> 00:42:55,573
Mm-hmm.
610
00:43:00,244 --> 00:43:02,955
Oh boy! Are you walking?
611
00:43:03,038 --> 00:43:04,081
Okay.
612
00:43:04,164 --> 00:43:06,709
We'll call, we'll chat,
and we'll talk about silly things.
613
00:43:06,792 --> 00:43:09,962
And they were pretty serious on the phone.
I go, "Okay, what's going on?"
614
00:43:10,045 --> 00:43:15,092
They said, "Well, we'd like for you
to be Lili's godfather." I go, "Whoa."
615
00:43:16,302 --> 00:43:18,012
I had to take a minute to take that in.
616
00:43:18,095 --> 00:43:20,431
And I thought,
617
00:43:20,514 --> 00:43:22,725
"I'd be honored.
I'd absolutely be honored."
618
00:43:23,767 --> 00:43:26,478
And I got off the phone,
took it all in and then called them back.
619
00:43:26,562 --> 00:43:28,564
I go, "Uh, hold on a second."
620
00:43:29,690 --> 00:43:34,361
"Does this mean we got to go over there
and do all of that in the church with them
621
00:43:34,445 --> 00:43:36,572
and figure all that out?
I don't want to do that."
622
00:43:36,655 --> 00:43:39,908
"Maybe we can do a little private ceremony
here and let that be that,
623
00:43:39,992 --> 00:43:42,911
and if you have to do it there,
then that's okay."
624
00:43:52,463 --> 00:43:55,174
-They're creating their family.
625
00:43:55,257 --> 00:44:00,471
And, um…
…friends can be family too.
626
00:44:02,681 --> 00:44:04,808
Parvati! Parvati!
627
00:44:04,892 --> 00:44:06,018
Josie!
628
00:44:06,101 --> 00:44:09,271
They can start something
fresh and new and hope that one day
629
00:44:09,355 --> 00:44:15,569
that family on both ends will be able
to understand that this is truly love.
630
00:44:19,657 --> 00:44:23,077
Archie, do you want to come help
blow out the candles? Come help.
631
00:44:23,160 --> 00:44:23,994
Yay!
632
00:44:24,078 --> 00:44:26,997
Oh my… Yeah!
633
00:44:29,208 --> 00:44:30,542
Eugenie's in town.
634
00:44:32,294 --> 00:44:34,588
Where are we?
635
00:44:34,672 --> 00:44:36,840
-At the Superbowl!
-At the Superbowl!
636
00:44:36,924 --> 00:44:39,593
You gotta grab him, Eugenie.
You gotta grab him!
637
00:44:42,971 --> 00:44:45,849
Trousers are falling down.
638
00:44:47,226 --> 00:44:48,394
Good job.
639
00:44:51,271 --> 00:44:54,274
Just seeing Archie running
across the lawn and this big smile…
640
00:44:54,358 --> 00:44:56,360
This is the world that he knows.
641
00:44:56,443 --> 00:44:58,946
He spent his first five months in Windsor.
That was it.
642
00:44:59,446 --> 00:45:01,573
This is home to him. This is home to Lili.
643
00:45:01,657 --> 00:45:03,200
"I need to walk away!"
644
00:45:04,284 --> 00:45:05,411
And this is our home.
645
00:45:09,957 --> 00:45:13,085
I get to do things with our kids
I would never be able to do in the UK.
646
00:45:13,585 --> 00:45:16,422
-Woo!
647
00:45:32,771 --> 00:45:35,441
He's deep in some sort of legal email,
I can tell.
648
00:45:38,485 --> 00:45:41,905
Meghan's case
against Associated Newspapers
649
00:45:41,989 --> 00:45:44,241
had gone on several years.
650
00:45:45,617 --> 00:45:49,037
At the beginning of 2021, the judge said,
651
00:45:49,121 --> 00:45:51,582
"We don't need
to have a trial or disclosure."
652
00:45:51,665 --> 00:45:55,627
"I'm deciding the case now.
I'm calling it in Meghan's favor."
653
00:45:56,211 --> 00:45:59,590
Then, uh, Associated predictably appealed.
654
00:45:59,673 --> 00:46:03,761
It was all, we thought, just
an opportunity to generate more clickbait.
655
00:46:03,844 --> 00:46:06,930
When all of this started,
I had no children.
656
00:46:07,931 --> 00:46:12,478
And now I have birthed two and lost one.
And it's still going on.
657
00:46:15,481 --> 00:46:18,358
When we were
just about to go to the Court of Appeal,
658
00:46:19,318 --> 00:46:22,488
a senior member
of the Duke of Cambridge's team
659
00:46:22,571 --> 00:46:26,617
came forward to give this witness
statement which wasn't required.
660
00:46:29,328 --> 00:46:35,125
And sadly, there's just no way
he could have done that without, um,
661
00:46:35,209 --> 00:46:36,877
the authority of his bosses.
662
00:46:36,960 --> 00:46:39,922
The Mail on Sunday was arguing
all the way through this
663
00:46:40,005 --> 00:46:42,341
that actually this letter wasn't private
664
00:46:42,424 --> 00:46:46,261
because she shared a draft
with her former press secretary
665
00:46:46,345 --> 00:46:48,764
and she shared some
text messages with him.
666
00:46:48,847 --> 00:46:51,600
Even during the course
of those text messages, Meghan said,
667
00:46:51,683 --> 00:46:55,479
"Obviously everything I have drafted
is with the understanding it could leak."
668
00:46:56,104 --> 00:46:58,232
-Let me deal with it.
-How do we deal with that?
669
00:46:58,315 --> 00:47:00,108
Like, how on earth… Like…
670
00:47:00,192 --> 00:47:02,236
He works for his brother. Like…
671
00:47:02,319 --> 00:47:03,946
But that… I know.
672
00:47:04,571 --> 00:47:08,325
-Like that… Like, I… It's your brother.
-Yep.
673
00:47:08,408 --> 00:47:11,787
I'm not gonna say anything
about your brother, but it's so obvious.
674
00:47:11,870 --> 00:47:13,622
-It's like, all--
-It's even more…
675
00:47:13,705 --> 00:47:15,916
It's even more obvious
that they'll try and cover it up.
676
00:47:16,625 --> 00:47:19,753
Again, "Jason, the former aide
of Meghan and Harry," as opposed to--
677
00:47:19,837 --> 00:47:23,423
Why are we talking about him
as her former aide
678
00:47:23,507 --> 00:47:25,425
and not as the person
who works for your brother?
679
00:47:25,509 --> 00:47:27,469
That's why I'm now living
in a different country.
680
00:47:27,970 --> 00:47:30,097
Because all the comms teams basically like
681
00:47:30,931 --> 00:47:33,392
try to outdo each other, but this is the…
682
00:47:33,475 --> 00:47:34,643
This is the contract.
683
00:47:34,726 --> 00:47:37,896
The symbiotic relationship
between the two institutions working
684
00:47:38,647 --> 00:47:40,065
the best that they can.
685
00:47:49,575 --> 00:47:51,201
Okay. Thank you.
686
00:47:56,415 --> 00:47:58,625
Is Meghan
manipulating the media?
687
00:47:58,709 --> 00:48:00,752
Thank you
for your text messages as well.
688
00:48:00,836 --> 00:48:03,255
ER says, "Of course Meghan's
manipulating the media."
689
00:48:03,338 --> 00:48:05,674
"Good for her, I say.
They manipulate us enough."
690
00:48:05,757 --> 00:48:08,051
Chris said she likes
to control the narrative…
691
00:48:10,637 --> 00:48:11,722
Thank you.
692
00:48:13,640 --> 00:48:16,435
I just wanted to ask you,
you know, about the appeal,
693
00:48:16,518 --> 00:48:18,478
and how you feel about it,
694
00:48:18,562 --> 00:48:22,357
and also just how you feel
about these issues of privacy.
695
00:48:22,441 --> 00:48:25,235
It's an arduous process. But it's just me
standing up for what's right.
696
00:48:25,319 --> 00:48:28,071
Which I think is important
across the board,
697
00:48:28,155 --> 00:48:31,116
be it in this case or in the other things
we've been talking about today.
698
00:48:31,199 --> 00:48:32,034
At a certain point,
699
00:48:32,117 --> 00:48:35,329
no matter how difficult it is, if you know
the difference between right and wrong,
700
00:48:35,412 --> 00:48:38,165
you must stand up for what's right,
and that's what I'm doing.
701
00:48:42,419 --> 00:48:44,004
It's just before 2 a.m.
702
00:48:45,756 --> 00:48:48,884
And we're ringing the team in the UK
703
00:48:49,593 --> 00:48:51,511
to get the results of the appeal.
704
00:48:54,681 --> 00:48:57,476
So, just quickly,
while we're waiting for Jenny to call…
705
00:48:58,310 --> 00:48:59,811
-Hm?
-How do you feel?
706
00:48:59,895 --> 00:49:02,773
I just… I basically just feel
like a little bit nauseous.
707
00:49:02,856 --> 00:49:05,150
I just don't know. Like…
708
00:49:05,233 --> 00:49:09,863
I know they're confident,
but I just want it all to be over.
709
00:49:17,454 --> 00:49:19,039
Hey. Congratulations.
710
00:49:23,961 --> 00:49:26,922
-Oh.
711
00:49:27,005 --> 00:49:29,299
Oh, Jenny. Thank you for--
712
00:49:29,383 --> 00:49:31,385
-I know.
-Thank you for not milking that.
713
00:49:31,468 --> 00:49:33,053
Thank you for not playing…
714
00:49:35,222 --> 00:49:36,556
How are you feeling?
715
00:49:37,057 --> 00:49:40,352
I don't know. Maybe now I'm gonna eat
some of the ice cream you sent.
716
00:49:40,435 --> 00:49:42,479
Fuck, yeah!
717
00:49:44,606 --> 00:49:49,778
On every level,
this is so satisfying and sensational!
718
00:49:49,861 --> 00:49:51,905
You did this. And you, H.
719
00:49:51,989 --> 00:49:53,490
My ongoing joke of late
720
00:49:53,573 --> 00:49:57,244
has been like H is just like
Mr. Justice Man. Mr. Justice Man.
721
00:49:57,327 --> 00:50:01,748
And the California version of this
needs to be Mr. Just-Is, man!
722
00:50:03,083 --> 00:50:06,044
Meghan Markle got
a court-mandated front page mea culpa
723
00:50:06,128 --> 00:50:08,213
from a UK tabloid over the weekend.
724
00:50:08,296 --> 00:50:12,217
The statement from Mail on Sunday
stopped short of an apology,
725
00:50:12,300 --> 00:50:15,220
but it did acknowledge
Markle's legal victory.
726
00:50:17,848 --> 00:50:22,894
The witness statement had no legal
significance on the case whatsoever,
727
00:50:22,978 --> 00:50:27,274
other than to actually vindicate
a lot of what Meghan had been saying
728
00:50:27,357 --> 00:50:30,485
about how the letter
was never intended to be published.
729
00:50:30,569 --> 00:50:35,282
But it was filed because
the impact on Meghan's reputation
730
00:50:35,365 --> 00:50:37,075
was potentially damaging.
731
00:50:37,159 --> 00:50:42,622
The reporting skewered things to make
it look, falsely, as if Meghan had lied,
732
00:50:42,706 --> 00:50:43,874
which she absolutely hadn't.
733
00:50:43,957 --> 00:50:46,293
As has been proven time and time again,
734
00:50:46,376 --> 00:50:49,838
there's an incentive
for the British media to get you to trial.
735
00:50:50,839 --> 00:50:54,885
Because they can make so much money,
and it creates such a circus around it,
736
00:50:54,968 --> 00:50:56,720
which is exactly what they did here.
737
00:50:56,803 --> 00:50:59,556
And if we don't have the resource,
or the capability, or the capacity
738
00:50:59,639 --> 00:51:02,893
to be able to stand up to these people,
then no one else does.
739
00:51:04,227 --> 00:51:06,772
-Hey-o.
-Hi!
740
00:51:07,272 --> 00:51:09,649
-Nice to meet you.
-Nice to meet you too.
741
00:51:09,733 --> 00:51:12,152
-Everyone is off to the right.
-Thank you.
742
00:51:13,361 --> 00:51:14,863
-Hi!
-Hi guys!
743
00:51:14,946 --> 00:51:16,239
Okay, so each episode…
744
00:51:16,323 --> 00:51:18,992
Everyone's so dressed up.
Thank God I didn't wear jeans.
745
00:51:20,368 --> 00:51:23,830
We have a good friend,
and every year at New Year's,
746
00:51:23,914 --> 00:51:26,875
she goes around the table
and asks who's sitting there at dinner,
747
00:51:26,958 --> 00:51:29,544
"What is your word for this year?"
748
00:51:31,088 --> 00:51:33,298
And a few years ago,
when I heard that, I was like,
749
00:51:33,381 --> 00:51:35,717
"Oh, what is my word?
Not a resolution. What is your word?"
750
00:51:35,801 --> 00:51:36,718
And I thought…
751
00:51:37,219 --> 00:51:40,764
"My word is peace. Peace. It's got
to be peace. All I want is peace."
752
00:51:40,847 --> 00:51:43,850
And I went, "Nope.
I can't have peace without truth."
753
00:51:44,351 --> 00:51:46,019
My word for that year was truth.
754
00:51:46,103 --> 00:51:48,396
-Happy Holidays!
-Happy holidays, happy holidays.
755
00:51:48,480 --> 00:51:51,900
-Thank you, guys!
-Cheers, guys. Cheers, cheers.
756
00:51:51,983 --> 00:51:52,859
Rick, you're up.
757
00:51:52,943 --> 00:51:56,279
And then by the next year,
oh, here we are again.
758
00:51:56,363 --> 00:51:59,491
Truth. We got some truth out. Finally,
people are gonna know some truths.
759
00:52:00,033 --> 00:52:03,954
But it hasn't given us peace.
It's like my word has to be peace.
760
00:52:04,871 --> 00:52:07,332
It was around that time
that I was like, "I just want peace."
761
00:52:07,415 --> 00:52:10,669
And part of that, for me, is reclaiming.
762
00:52:11,294 --> 00:52:14,548
You know, when you've lost
a huge piece of yourself,
763
00:52:15,799 --> 00:52:19,636
getting that back includes
getting back those relationships
764
00:52:19,719 --> 00:52:23,306
and those friendships
and things that anchor you to who you are.
765
00:52:27,978 --> 00:52:30,021
Ashleigh was a huge part of that for me.
766
00:52:32,482 --> 00:52:37,154
And then, you know, she came back
into my life then at the end of last year.
767
00:52:37,237 --> 00:52:38,655
Hello!
768
00:52:38,738 --> 00:52:42,617
Hello. Hi, baby girl. Hi.
769
00:52:43,201 --> 00:52:46,246
-I texted her.
-Thank you. What you doing?
770
00:52:46,329 --> 00:52:50,625
And she was immediately
just happy to be reconnected.
771
00:52:50,709 --> 00:52:52,627
I missed you. You're so big.
772
00:52:53,879 --> 00:52:56,506
Good job!
Are you making zucchini muffins?
773
00:52:56,590 --> 00:52:58,800
I was there at Christmas.
774
00:52:58,884 --> 00:53:01,595
-What's--
-All the sides. Get everything mixed in.
775
00:53:01,678 --> 00:53:06,474
I missed so much of Archie's life,
but it doesn't necessarily feel like it.
776
00:53:06,558 --> 00:53:09,144
I think we immediately kind of
777
00:53:10,187 --> 00:53:11,521
had this bond.
778
00:53:13,398 --> 00:53:16,693
So just kind of to experience
them growing up,
779
00:53:18,195 --> 00:53:22,324
feeling like I'm in their life,
that has been really good.
780
00:53:22,407 --> 00:53:24,326
-Here's some more.
-Tomatoes.
781
00:53:24,409 --> 00:53:26,203
-Some more.
-Your tomatoes!
782
00:53:26,286 --> 00:53:28,872
Look at this one!
Ah, it's so big!
783
00:53:28,955 --> 00:53:31,750
But part
of what's beautiful here is the freedom
784
00:53:31,833 --> 00:53:34,544
to have family moments out in the world.
785
00:53:34,628 --> 00:53:38,673
Oh, we're gonna
see the horses. Yay!
786
00:53:39,216 --> 00:53:42,969
And I want our kids to be
able to do that and to be able to travel.
787
00:53:43,678 --> 00:53:48,934
And to fall in love, you know.
I just want them to be happy.
788
00:53:56,900 --> 00:54:00,570
The world that they see
is how I would love the world to be.
789
00:54:01,863 --> 00:54:04,991
They don't… They don't need to worry
about the things that we worry about.
790
00:54:08,745 --> 00:54:10,497
-Ball?
-Ball?
791
00:54:12,707 --> 00:54:14,251
-Again?
-Again.
792
00:54:44,698 --> 00:54:48,576
Are there things that
you miss about life in the institution?
793
00:54:49,077 --> 00:54:50,537
Yeah, I mean, I miss the…
794
00:54:51,037 --> 00:54:54,916
The weird family gatherings when we're all
sort of brought together under one roof
795
00:54:55,000 --> 00:54:57,919
for, you know, certain times of the year.
796
00:54:58,003 --> 00:55:00,588
Um, that I miss.
797
00:55:00,672 --> 00:55:04,342
Um, you know, being part of the
institution meant that I was in the UK.
798
00:55:04,426 --> 00:55:06,261
So I miss the UK. I miss my friends.
799
00:55:06,761 --> 00:55:08,013
Um, and I've lost…
800
00:55:08,096 --> 00:55:10,098
I've lost a few friends
in this process as well.
801
00:55:10,181 --> 00:55:12,434
I mean, I came here because I was changed.
802
00:55:12,976 --> 00:55:15,937
I changed to the point
that I'd outgrown my environment.
803
00:55:16,438 --> 00:55:19,607
Therefore, this was
the most obvious place to come.
804
00:55:20,275 --> 00:55:22,319
You know, it's one of the places
where I think my mum
805
00:55:22,402 --> 00:55:24,404
was probably gonna end up
living potentially.
806
00:55:25,363 --> 00:55:26,197
You know.
807
00:55:31,161 --> 00:55:34,164
Follow the sun ♪
808
00:55:58,104 --> 00:56:02,984
Harry was always
looking for a simpler life.
809
00:56:06,404 --> 00:56:09,324
More, uh, human, you know.
810
00:56:09,407 --> 00:56:12,369
A husband and a wife,
with two kids and two dogs.
811
00:56:13,787 --> 00:56:17,916
Thinking about, you know,
what's for dinner and, you know,
812
00:56:17,999 --> 00:56:20,919
what's our schedule look like tomorrow?
813
00:56:21,002 --> 00:56:24,339
Which is not something
that, uh, was so normal for him.
814
00:56:26,549 --> 00:56:27,759
Home sweet home.
815
00:56:33,598 --> 00:56:36,643
There's times when I've been angry,
but I can't be that angry
816
00:56:36,726 --> 00:56:41,189
because I genuinely feel that I, and we,
are exactly where we're supposed to be.
817
00:56:45,777 --> 00:56:47,487
We've made it to the other side.
818
00:56:50,073 --> 00:56:53,576
It's amazing how things come
full circle that you never think about.
819
00:56:54,494 --> 00:56:57,372
I gave a speech the night of our wedding,
820
00:56:57,455 --> 00:56:59,999
which is atypical for a bride
in the UK, I think?
821
00:57:00,083 --> 00:57:00,959
Very.
822
00:57:01,042 --> 00:57:03,920
I have it on my phone.
I can read it to you. Should I read it?
823
00:57:04,003 --> 00:57:04,921
From your phone?
824
00:57:07,090 --> 00:57:09,092
-Am I gonna be able to read that?
-Try.
825
00:57:11,719 --> 00:57:14,139
"On to the crux
of why I wanted to speak tonight."
826
00:57:14,639 --> 00:57:16,808
"First of all, it's been a while."
827
00:57:17,684 --> 00:57:19,185
That got a big laugh.
828
00:57:19,894 --> 00:57:22,063
"But mostly I wanted to share a story."
829
00:57:22,147 --> 00:57:25,775
"A story that I wrote about the man
that I love and the way that we met."
830
00:57:26,401 --> 00:57:29,112
"Let's call this a modern fairy tale.
831
00:57:30,780 --> 00:57:33,867
"Once upon a time,
there was a girl from LA."
832
00:57:33,950 --> 00:57:35,869
"Some people called her an actress."
833
00:57:38,997 --> 00:57:40,373
"And there was a guy from London."
834
00:57:41,916 --> 00:57:43,710
"Some people called him a prince."
835
00:57:48,173 --> 00:57:50,425
"All of those people didn't fully get it,
836
00:57:51,259 --> 00:57:55,513
because this is the love story of a boy
and a girl who were meant to be together."
837
00:57:59,601 --> 00:58:03,897
"They meet on July 3rd, 2016 in London.
And they giggle endlessly."
838
00:58:06,691 --> 00:58:08,151
"They have their second date
839
00:58:08,234 --> 00:58:10,487
and he brings her cupcakes
because it's 4th July."
840
00:58:11,237 --> 00:58:14,657
"'A bittersweet celebration', he says.
Ironic really."
841
00:58:14,741 --> 00:58:17,285
"Her country's independence
from his country."
842
00:58:17,368 --> 00:58:20,580
"Yet in this moment, they know they don't
want to be independent of each other."
843
00:58:27,378 --> 00:58:29,714
"And after a month
of long-distance courtship,
844
00:58:30,298 --> 00:58:32,509
they settle into the quiet of Botswana."
845
00:58:37,222 --> 00:58:40,016
"And amidst whatever momentary worries
that creep in,
846
00:58:40,099 --> 00:58:43,645
they look at each other and think,
'Whatever, world, we're in.'"
847
00:58:50,693 --> 00:58:53,488
"They would love,
and garden, and travel, and laugh,
848
00:58:53,571 --> 00:58:56,199
and rack up more air miles
than any couple could have."
849
00:58:57,992 --> 00:59:01,704
"And when the tides were rough,
they squeezed each other tighter."
850
00:59:01,788 --> 00:59:05,291
"'Nothing can break us,' they'd say.
'For this love, she was a fighter.'"
851
00:59:07,502 --> 00:59:10,463
"I appreciate, respect
and honor you, my treasure,
852
00:59:10,547 --> 00:59:12,298
for the family we will create,
853
00:59:13,633 --> 00:59:15,760
and our love story
that will last forever."
854
00:59:17,595 --> 00:59:20,431
She's happy to go up the hill
but she hates going down the hill.
855
00:59:20,515 --> 00:59:22,684
We don't have
that much farther to go.
856
00:59:22,767 --> 00:59:23,685
What?
857
00:59:26,354 --> 00:59:30,024
"So I ask you to raise a glass
to the astounding assurance
858
00:59:30,650 --> 00:59:32,527
that now life begins,
859
00:59:32,610 --> 00:59:36,364
and the everlasting knowing
that, above all, love wins."
860
01:01:11,209 --> 01:01:16,506
Of how I feel today ♪