1 00:00:13,304 --> 00:00:14,264 -Alright. -Good morning Sir. 2 00:00:17,308 --> 00:00:19,185 Your Royal Highness and Meghan Markle, 3 00:00:19,269 --> 00:00:20,562 congratulations to you both. 4 00:00:20,645 --> 00:00:21,479 Thank you. 5 00:00:21,563 --> 00:00:22,856 Can we start with the proposal 6 00:00:22,939 --> 00:00:24,566 and the actual moment of your engagement. 7 00:00:24,649 --> 00:00:26,609 When did it happen? How did it happen? 8 00:00:27,569 --> 00:00:30,238 -It happened a few weeks ago. -Mm-hmm. 9 00:00:30,321 --> 00:00:33,575 Um, earlier this month. Here at our cottage. 10 00:00:34,159 --> 00:00:36,786 In your engagement interview, er-- 11 00:00:36,870 --> 00:00:40,081 Orchestrated reality show, yep. 12 00:00:42,250 --> 00:00:44,419 It was, you know, rehearsed. 13 00:00:46,880 --> 00:00:49,799 So we did the thing out with the Press, then we went right inside, 14 00:00:49,883 --> 00:00:51,801 took the coat off, sat down and did the interview. 15 00:00:51,885 --> 00:00:53,511 So it's all in that same moment. 16 00:00:58,767 --> 00:01:01,144 Well hearts are broken worldwide this morning 17 00:01:01,227 --> 00:01:04,230 certainly because he's probably the most popular member of the Royal Family… 18 00:01:04,314 --> 00:01:05,690 The official news 19 00:01:05,774 --> 00:01:09,235 Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are in an engagement… 20 00:01:09,319 --> 00:01:11,529 Buckingham Palace proudly announces 21 00:01:11,613 --> 00:01:15,325 the engagement of Prince Harry and Meghan Markle. 22 00:01:15,408 --> 00:01:20,038 -God save the queen. 23 00:01:20,121 --> 00:01:22,540 What like prepping you that they're gonna ask this, this, this? 24 00:01:22,624 --> 00:01:23,708 Or how does that work? 25 00:01:23,792 --> 00:01:27,462 Yeah. But also, "There'll ask to see the ring, so show the ring." 26 00:01:27,545 --> 00:01:30,423 So the main stone itself, I sourced from Botswana. 27 00:01:30,507 --> 00:01:35,678 And the little diamonds on the side are from my mother's jewelry collection 28 00:01:35,762 --> 00:01:39,516 to make sure she's with us on this crazy journey together. 29 00:01:42,352 --> 00:01:45,146 What do you think your mother would have thought of Meghan 30 00:01:45,230 --> 00:01:46,523 or said about Meghan? 31 00:01:46,606 --> 00:01:49,317 At least they'd be thick as thieves. 32 00:01:49,400 --> 00:01:53,071 Without question, I think she would be over the moon. 33 00:01:53,154 --> 00:01:56,699 Jumping up and down and so excited for me. 34 00:01:56,783 --> 00:02:00,203 And as I said, would have probably been best friends, best friends with Meghan. 35 00:02:00,286 --> 00:02:01,996 -I know… I'm sure she's, er-- -She's with us. 36 00:02:02,080 --> 00:02:04,916 I'm sure she's with us, jumping up and down somewhere else. 37 00:02:05,500 --> 00:02:06,835 I think this is the happy ending 38 00:02:06,918 --> 00:02:08,378 that people have wished for, for Prince Harry. 39 00:02:08,461 --> 00:02:09,462 They were thrilled. 40 00:02:09,546 --> 00:02:10,713 Absolutely thrilled. 41 00:02:10,797 --> 00:02:13,133 Absolutely thrilled, it's such exciting news. 42 00:02:13,216 --> 00:02:15,468 His family has been so welcoming. 43 00:02:15,552 --> 00:02:18,054 -Katherine's been absolutely amazing. -She's been wonderful. 44 00:02:18,138 --> 00:02:20,014 Amazing, as has William, as well. 45 00:02:20,098 --> 00:02:21,724 Have you met each other's families? 46 00:02:22,433 --> 00:02:26,146 My mom, we've been spending a lot of time with. It was so much fun. 47 00:02:26,229 --> 00:02:29,774 He's talked to my dad, few times. Hasn't been able to meet him just yet. 48 00:02:30,567 --> 00:02:32,652 Not just a mention of an American bride 49 00:02:32,735 --> 00:02:34,737 but also with a mixed race background. 50 00:02:34,821 --> 00:02:37,657 -First, of mixed race -Many things about her, 51 00:02:37,740 --> 00:02:41,327 -make her relevant to this generation… -So much scrutiny… 52 00:02:41,411 --> 00:02:44,122 Do you have that sense that the combination of the two of you, 53 00:02:44,205 --> 00:02:46,916 your different backgrounds, that you'll represent something new 54 00:02:47,000 --> 00:02:48,501 for the Royal Family? 55 00:02:54,340 --> 00:02:58,761 Em, you know, we're a fantastic team, we know we are. And 56 00:02:58,845 --> 00:03:02,932 we hope to, over time, try and have as much impact 57 00:03:03,016 --> 00:03:05,435 for other things that we care about as much as possible. 58 00:03:05,518 --> 00:03:07,353 I am very excited about that, yeah. 59 00:03:09,022 --> 00:03:11,816 But yes. We weren't, so my point is, we weren't allowed to tell 60 00:03:11,900 --> 00:03:14,027 our story because they didn't want. 61 00:03:14,110 --> 00:03:15,612 We are not allowed to tell our story. 62 00:03:15,695 --> 00:03:17,614 That's true. 63 00:03:17,697 --> 00:03:19,324 That's the consistency. 64 00:03:19,407 --> 00:03:21,576 That is consistent. Yeah. 65 00:03:21,659 --> 00:03:23,077 Until now. 66 00:03:23,161 --> 00:03:24,537 I guess that's why we're here. 67 00:03:24,621 --> 00:03:25,788 Yeah. 68 00:04:13,753 --> 00:04:18,758 -Meghan! 69 00:04:22,095 --> 00:04:25,932 Who dreamed that Britain would have a Black princess? 70 00:04:26,724 --> 00:04:28,559 Who could have conceived that? 71 00:04:29,143 --> 00:04:34,023 It was a conclusion to a history that was so improbable 72 00:04:34,107 --> 00:04:35,650 as to be astonishing. 73 00:04:38,278 --> 00:04:41,114 It is hard to believe the role 74 00:04:41,197 --> 00:04:43,074 that Britain played in modern history. 75 00:04:44,033 --> 00:04:49,038 This little island off the coast of Europe was at the center of the biggest empire 76 00:04:49,122 --> 00:04:50,665 that the world has ever seen. 77 00:04:51,374 --> 00:04:55,169 But the question we have to ask is, "Who's paid the cost in all of this?" 78 00:04:58,756 --> 00:05:02,260 It's often said that Britain had a deep south 79 00:05:02,343 --> 00:05:06,431 that was just as brutal, that actually enslaved more Africans 80 00:05:06,514 --> 00:05:08,683 than the United states of America did. 81 00:05:08,766 --> 00:05:10,476 But that deep south was the Caribbean. 82 00:05:12,103 --> 00:05:14,147 It was overseas. It was far away. 83 00:05:14,939 --> 00:05:16,899 It was out of sight and out of minds. 84 00:05:17,900 --> 00:05:20,778 Jamaica becomes this incredibly profitable center 85 00:05:20,862 --> 00:05:22,280 of British slavery. 86 00:05:22,363 --> 00:05:24,907 And then of course, there's the settlements in North America. 87 00:05:24,991 --> 00:05:28,619 Tobacco in Virginia and Maryland, rice from the south. 88 00:05:28,703 --> 00:05:31,914 Slavery is fueling this early British empire. 89 00:05:33,666 --> 00:05:37,378 The first ever commercial Slave Voyage conducted by Britain, 90 00:05:37,462 --> 00:05:40,048 was personally financed by Queen Elizabeth I. 91 00:05:41,215 --> 00:05:45,344 And it continued to be financed by kings and queens, 92 00:05:45,428 --> 00:05:47,638 while up until its abolition. 93 00:05:50,516 --> 00:05:53,144 When I was at school, the only aspect 94 00:05:53,227 --> 00:05:55,396 of the whole story of British slavery 95 00:05:55,480 --> 00:05:58,441 that I was ever told, was the abolition of slavery. 96 00:06:00,109 --> 00:06:02,695 In 1807, Britain abolished its slave trade 97 00:06:02,779 --> 00:06:06,365 and in the 1830s Britain abolished its slave empire. 98 00:06:06,449 --> 00:06:09,702 But even when we tell that very selective slice of the history, 99 00:06:10,369 --> 00:06:12,872 we miss out a critical aspect. 100 00:06:13,623 --> 00:06:17,752 Slavery wasn't just abolished, the slave owners were compensated. 101 00:06:18,336 --> 00:06:20,505 They were compensated enormously. 102 00:06:20,588 --> 00:06:23,674 Twenty million pounds for their human property. 103 00:06:24,967 --> 00:06:28,554 It's just another way in which our memory of British slavery 104 00:06:28,638 --> 00:06:31,182 has been airbrushed out of Britain's story. 105 00:06:38,731 --> 00:06:43,736 Growing up in the UK, I was completely oblivious 106 00:06:43,820 --> 00:06:45,696 to that history and that legacy. 107 00:06:46,906 --> 00:06:49,867 And when I look back on it, I think a lot of the focus 108 00:06:49,951 --> 00:06:54,497 was put on celebrating our colonial power 109 00:06:54,580 --> 00:06:58,918 and just how important Britain used to be globally. 110 00:07:01,838 --> 00:07:03,756 I think one of the oddest things is, 111 00:07:03,840 --> 00:07:06,175 it was only on the very last decades 112 00:07:06,259 --> 00:07:07,885 that imperial epoch, 113 00:07:07,969 --> 00:07:12,014 that Black and Brown people came to live in Britain in large numbers. 114 00:07:14,600 --> 00:07:19,397 In the mid-twentieth century, Britain went to the Caribbean Islands 115 00:07:19,480 --> 00:07:22,066 recruiting people to drive buses, 116 00:07:22,150 --> 00:07:24,193 become nurses in the newly 117 00:07:24,277 --> 00:07:26,821 created National Health Service, 118 00:07:26,904 --> 00:07:30,408 teachers in newly expanded schools. 119 00:07:31,409 --> 00:07:34,203 And these were, on the whole, low-paid jobs. 120 00:07:36,497 --> 00:07:40,418 And this city, London, began to look for the only time in its history, 121 00:07:40,501 --> 00:07:43,379 like it actually was the center of an empire 122 00:07:43,463 --> 00:07:45,798 that was mainly made up of non-White people. 123 00:07:47,592 --> 00:07:51,012 I think what's happened over the past 50, 60 years, 124 00:07:51,095 --> 00:07:55,433 is that there is a call to re-imagine the Commonwealth, 125 00:07:55,516 --> 00:07:58,978 to re-imagine Britain. To re-imagine its institutions. 126 00:07:59,979 --> 00:08:04,275 And so the moment when I thought, "Well, this is significant." 127 00:08:04,358 --> 00:08:06,652 was when they got engaged. 128 00:08:07,904 --> 00:08:12,033 Could this really be a moment in which, in essence, 129 00:08:12,116 --> 00:08:15,203 the Royal family caught up with the rest of Britain? 130 00:08:18,956 --> 00:08:20,500 Nottingham, this morning, 131 00:08:20,583 --> 00:08:24,295 center of attention on both sides of the Atlantic. 132 00:08:26,005 --> 00:08:28,132 The crowds waiting to take their place 133 00:08:28,216 --> 00:08:31,886 in the fairy-tale of the soldier Prince and the Hollywood actress. 134 00:08:34,138 --> 00:08:38,643 Harry's brought his bird to town so I brought mine. 135 00:08:40,895 --> 00:08:42,230 And why are you here? 136 00:08:42,313 --> 00:08:44,732 Um, just to see Meghan. That's it. 137 00:08:44,815 --> 00:08:48,402 This is the moment which will be played around the world. 138 00:08:48,486 --> 00:08:52,073 The first Royal test for Meghan Markle. 139 00:08:53,991 --> 00:08:56,827 I never saw pictures or videos of a walkabout. 140 00:08:57,453 --> 00:08:58,538 Like, what's a walkabout? 141 00:09:02,375 --> 00:09:04,001 I could talk her through as much as I knew 142 00:09:04,085 --> 00:09:06,462 from my own experience of what I'd seen. 143 00:09:07,672 --> 00:09:12,593 The piece I really didn't know about was the style, right, 144 00:09:12,677 --> 00:09:16,556 and what a woman needed to, how they needed to dress and all that. 145 00:09:16,639 --> 00:09:19,183 No, you'd be there with the scissors like, "Guys, be ready. We have five minutes." 146 00:09:19,267 --> 00:09:21,310 Okay. And I was like, "Should I wear these earrings? 147 00:09:21,394 --> 00:09:22,562 Are these a British designer? 148 00:09:22,645 --> 00:09:26,899 I just ordered these online. Is this good? Wait, my tag's on. Cut the tag." 149 00:09:26,983 --> 00:09:28,693 And then the zip breaks, I'm just like… 150 00:09:28,776 --> 00:09:30,903 And he's like, "Okay babes, safety pin. Just safety pin it." 151 00:09:30,987 --> 00:09:33,531 Well, the whole thing was just ridiculous. 152 00:09:33,614 --> 00:09:34,991 "Ready?" "Yeah." "Okay." 153 00:09:36,284 --> 00:09:38,703 We just sort of went with it. 154 00:09:44,292 --> 00:09:46,752 Just days since we found out they were engaged, 155 00:09:46,836 --> 00:09:51,716 Prince Harry and Meghan Markle were on their first ever Royal Walkabout. 156 00:09:51,799 --> 00:09:53,801 As an actress, Meghan Markle is used to 157 00:09:53,884 --> 00:09:56,262 the red carpet and all these crowds. 158 00:09:56,345 --> 00:09:58,514 This however is something else. 159 00:09:59,473 --> 00:10:01,434 -Hey, Meghan. -Oh, thank you. 160 00:10:01,517 --> 00:10:05,062 They looked perfect. And she was dressed just on point. Yeah. 161 00:10:05,146 --> 00:10:06,731 -She looked amazing. -Yeah. 162 00:10:06,814 --> 00:10:08,190 Meghan. 163 00:10:08,274 --> 00:10:11,110 She was delightful. She was lovely. 164 00:10:11,193 --> 00:10:14,030 Meghan, we love you! Ooh! 165 00:10:14,113 --> 00:10:15,114 Meghan! 166 00:10:15,197 --> 00:10:18,659 Everybody was just so excited and pleased and happy. 167 00:10:18,743 --> 00:10:21,621 And I think people looked at it and went, "Wow, what a breath of fresh air." 168 00:10:23,497 --> 00:10:24,832 Good addition to the Royal family. 169 00:10:24,915 --> 00:10:25,875 Definitely. 170 00:10:25,958 --> 00:10:27,418 -An American. -The mixed kids. 171 00:10:27,501 --> 00:10:30,421 Yeah, mixed kids in the Royal Family now. 172 00:10:30,504 --> 00:10:32,548 What a day for Meghan Markle. 173 00:10:32,632 --> 00:10:35,259 There was no doubt who sparkled the most today. 174 00:10:36,260 --> 00:10:39,263 I thought to myself, like, "What a dream." 175 00:10:39,347 --> 00:10:42,683 I found a woman that not necessarily finds this easy 176 00:10:42,767 --> 00:10:46,437 but is able to do it and make it look easy. 177 00:10:58,616 --> 00:11:00,951 H, can you DJ? 178 00:11:01,035 --> 00:11:01,911 Mm. 179 00:11:06,207 --> 00:11:09,043 -Elton. -An Elton? I'll take it. 180 00:11:10,336 --> 00:11:12,963 I mean, Archie loves Bennie and The Jets. 181 00:11:13,047 --> 00:11:16,801 It is his favorite song. And to watch a two-year-old go "Bennie. 182 00:11:16,884 --> 00:11:19,345 -Bennie." 183 00:11:20,179 --> 00:11:22,264 Daniel was with me on our wedding. 184 00:11:22,348 --> 00:11:25,768 We've been together for the progression so much. 185 00:11:25,851 --> 00:11:29,688 -How long has it been now? -Ten, I think. 186 00:11:29,772 --> 00:11:32,316 -Almost ten years? Over ten years? -Easy. 187 00:11:32,400 --> 00:11:34,068 Oh my goodness. 188 00:11:34,151 --> 00:11:36,237 -It's so crazy! -I know. 189 00:11:37,655 --> 00:11:39,865 Nothing has changed, except for everything. 190 00:11:48,874 --> 00:11:52,128 Um, so maybe after this we can do a little bit of prep. 191 00:11:52,211 --> 00:11:57,049 Just go through some of the journalists that post these accounts. 192 00:11:57,133 --> 00:11:59,301 Mostly royal experts? 193 00:11:59,385 --> 00:12:00,219 Is this one mine? 194 00:12:00,302 --> 00:12:01,637 -I don't understand what that. -Yes. 195 00:12:02,513 --> 00:12:05,850 Someone can just call themselves a royal expert? 196 00:12:05,933 --> 00:12:07,893 That's a question for my husband. 197 00:12:07,977 --> 00:12:09,687 People can just call themselves royal experts? 198 00:12:09,770 --> 00:12:11,147 -Well no, it's the same as… -It should mean something. 199 00:12:11,230 --> 00:12:12,773 It's the same as Royal Correspondent. 200 00:12:12,857 --> 00:12:15,901 Royal Correspondent is a title, 201 00:12:15,985 --> 00:12:19,488 I suppose, that is given to a selected group of journalists, 202 00:12:19,572 --> 00:12:23,659 so that those newspapers can use them and their stories 203 00:12:23,742 --> 00:12:26,704 with Royal Correspondent as credible fact. 204 00:12:26,787 --> 00:12:31,041 Just so that whatever the papers print can come with extra credibility. 205 00:12:31,125 --> 00:12:32,543 I mean, anyone can be a royal expert. 206 00:12:32,626 --> 00:12:36,714 The whole point of it is to try and lend legitimacy to media articles, 207 00:12:36,797 --> 00:12:38,299 and they get paid for it. 208 00:12:38,382 --> 00:12:41,385 And that press pack of royal correspondents is essentially just, 209 00:12:41,469 --> 00:12:45,055 an extended PR arm of the Royal Family. 210 00:12:45,139 --> 00:12:49,477 So there's been an agreement that's been there for over 30 years. 211 00:12:55,024 --> 00:12:58,360 The tabloids in the UK have a very special relationship 212 00:12:58,444 --> 00:12:59,987 with the Royal Family. 213 00:13:00,070 --> 00:13:02,990 There's a sort of unwritten contract 214 00:13:03,073 --> 00:13:05,576 between the Institution and the Press. 215 00:13:07,912 --> 00:13:12,291 The way it's presented in the media is, the taxpayer in the UK 216 00:13:12,374 --> 00:13:14,877 pays for the Royal Family. 217 00:13:14,960 --> 00:13:17,087 And in return for those payments… 218 00:13:17,171 --> 00:13:19,215 Can we just see the ring? 219 00:13:19,298 --> 00:13:21,217 …there's an expectation that the Royal Family 220 00:13:21,300 --> 00:13:23,219 would be available to the media. 221 00:13:24,261 --> 00:13:27,348 And this is a sense of, we pay, you pose. 222 00:13:29,517 --> 00:13:33,896 And they feel that they have a duty to their readers 223 00:13:33,979 --> 00:13:37,942 to bring private aspects of their lives 224 00:13:38,025 --> 00:13:39,735 to light. 225 00:13:39,818 --> 00:13:44,823 Not all of it always directly related to the facts on the ground. 226 00:13:44,907 --> 00:13:46,575 If you're part of the royal rota, 227 00:13:47,701 --> 00:13:51,038 you have priority over the story, over everybody else. 228 00:13:52,831 --> 00:13:55,376 The royal rota is a system 229 00:13:55,459 --> 00:13:59,463 by which certain media are allocated slots 230 00:13:59,547 --> 00:14:02,424 to cover the members of the family. 231 00:14:03,300 --> 00:14:07,680 And however aggressive their previous coverage might have been, 232 00:14:07,763 --> 00:14:11,100 they still get the right to be on the rota. 233 00:14:11,183 --> 00:14:15,854 Like so, all royal news goes through the filter of all the newspapers 234 00:14:15,938 --> 00:14:20,943 within the royal rota of which, apart from the Telegraph, happen to be tabloids. 235 00:14:21,026 --> 00:14:22,444 It all comes out to control us. Like, 236 00:14:22,528 --> 00:14:26,365 this family is ours to exploit. 237 00:14:26,448 --> 00:14:30,494 That trauma is our story and our narrative to control. 238 00:14:31,787 --> 00:14:34,748 Cameras poking at you from every quarter, 239 00:14:34,832 --> 00:14:37,334 recording every twitch. 240 00:14:37,418 --> 00:14:43,215 If you don't try to work out in your own mind some kind of method for existing 241 00:14:43,299 --> 00:14:46,677 and surviving this kind of thing, you would go mad I think. 242 00:14:49,722 --> 00:14:53,392 Harry and William are the first generation 243 00:14:53,475 --> 00:14:56,812 that I've seen grow up under that contract. 244 00:14:59,857 --> 00:15:03,694 And I wish there was more introspection about the idea 245 00:15:03,777 --> 00:15:07,239 that you could be born into a contractual relationship with the British media. 246 00:15:16,206 --> 00:15:18,792 Rota! A couple of steps back, please. 247 00:15:18,876 --> 00:15:20,878 Sorry, keep moving. 248 00:15:20,961 --> 00:15:24,465 I remember doing an event with both the Duke and Duchess. 249 00:15:24,548 --> 00:15:30,220 And one of the photographers, almost in jest, said to me, 250 00:15:30,304 --> 00:15:33,766 "Oh, can't you get him to do something more. He doesn't perform for us anymore." 251 00:15:34,975 --> 00:15:36,685 So I went to Harry and Meghan 252 00:15:36,769 --> 00:15:40,522 and I actually, regret it wholeheartedly now, 253 00:15:40,606 --> 00:15:43,901 I said to them, "Sometimes, we just gotta play the game." 254 00:15:44,485 --> 00:15:48,197 And that ultimately, that game is the invisible contract. 255 00:15:49,448 --> 00:15:53,452 Harry, Meghan and the rest of the family had an obligation to perform. 256 00:15:53,535 --> 00:15:56,997 And if they didn't, you would fall out of favor, 257 00:15:57,081 --> 00:15:59,166 and then any opportunity would be used 258 00:15:59,249 --> 00:16:03,212 to write negative or highlight negative would be taken. 259 00:16:05,130 --> 00:16:07,549 Imagine all of these people 260 00:16:07,633 --> 00:16:11,595 that have published horrible things about you, 261 00:16:11,679 --> 00:16:14,098 published horrible things about your family, 262 00:16:14,181 --> 00:16:16,350 have published horrible things about your mother, 263 00:16:17,893 --> 00:16:19,436 you've got to perform for them. 264 00:16:20,521 --> 00:16:23,941 It's a real cutthroat business. And with Meghan… 265 00:16:26,694 --> 00:16:29,989 There was no limit. It was fair game on everyone. 266 00:16:31,365 --> 00:16:35,494 You know, we knew that they would contact people that Meg was close to. 267 00:16:35,577 --> 00:16:37,246 I didn't know the lengths that they would go. 268 00:16:39,790 --> 00:16:42,001 There were journalists outside of my apartment building 269 00:16:42,084 --> 00:16:44,795 There were people trailing us in London. 270 00:16:45,629 --> 00:16:46,839 It was intense. 271 00:16:46,922 --> 00:16:50,592 The Press was ruthless. They would go to my parents' home. 272 00:16:51,760 --> 00:16:55,639 I remember a friend forwarded me this article where my mom 273 00:16:55,723 --> 00:16:56,557 was quoted. 274 00:16:58,058 --> 00:17:01,729 It was like, "Oh, Meghan's obsessed with Princess Diana." 275 00:17:01,812 --> 00:17:04,815 Just things that never happened and weren't true at all. 276 00:17:06,650 --> 00:17:09,111 I felt unsafe a lot. 277 00:17:09,194 --> 00:17:12,990 I can't just go walk with dogs. I can't just go to work. 278 00:17:13,073 --> 00:17:16,076 You know, there was always someone there waiting for me, 279 00:17:16,160 --> 00:17:17,244 following me to work. 280 00:17:17,327 --> 00:17:21,415 I was being stalked by the paparazzi. 281 00:17:22,624 --> 00:17:24,543 Once, I pulled over. 282 00:17:24,626 --> 00:17:27,212 And so he pulled up next to me and said, "You know, 283 00:17:27,296 --> 00:17:29,006 I just was trying to get a story. 284 00:17:29,089 --> 00:17:31,091 You know you could get a lot of money for this." 285 00:17:31,175 --> 00:17:33,927 And I just looked at him and said, "This is my child. Like… 286 00:17:35,262 --> 00:17:36,764 I've nothing to say." 287 00:17:39,516 --> 00:17:45,606 The UK media, I truly believe, wanted my mom's side of my family 288 00:17:45,689 --> 00:17:49,318 to be the ones that all this drama could be stirred up with. 289 00:17:49,401 --> 00:17:53,781 And suddenly, you just had my mom who's classy and quiet in there, 290 00:17:53,864 --> 00:17:57,201 and you had the other side of my family that is just… 291 00:17:58,118 --> 00:17:59,661 acting differently. 292 00:18:00,746 --> 00:18:05,250 My half-sister who I haven't seen for over a decade, and that was only for a day, 293 00:18:05,334 --> 00:18:08,921 suddenly, it felt like she was everywhere. 294 00:18:09,004 --> 00:18:11,840 I don't know your middle name. I don't know your birthday. 295 00:18:12,591 --> 00:18:17,137 You're telling these people you raised me, and you call me Princess Pushy? 296 00:18:18,472 --> 00:18:21,767 Tom's kids were a good 17 years older than her. 297 00:18:22,935 --> 00:18:25,521 And Meg and I left when she was two. 298 00:18:27,898 --> 00:18:30,567 I don't remember seeing her when I was a kid 299 00:18:30,651 --> 00:18:33,529 at my dad's house, if and when they would come around. 300 00:18:34,404 --> 00:18:36,615 And then the last time that I saw her, 301 00:18:36,698 --> 00:18:39,827 that I remember, is when I was in my early twenties. 302 00:18:40,869 --> 00:18:44,414 I hadn't had a fallout with her. We didn't have a closeness to be able to have that. 303 00:18:45,207 --> 00:18:46,625 And I wanted a sister. 304 00:18:58,762 --> 00:19:01,640 My name's Ashleigh Hale. I'm an immigration attorney. 305 00:19:01,723 --> 00:19:03,767 And I am Meg's niece. 306 00:19:04,393 --> 00:19:05,477 How are you and Meg related? 307 00:19:05,561 --> 00:19:09,690 So Meg is my aunt on the maternal side of my family. 308 00:19:11,233 --> 00:19:14,444 So she is my biological mother's half-sister. 309 00:19:15,654 --> 00:19:17,990 My biological mother's Samantha Markle. 310 00:19:18,740 --> 00:19:23,287 And it was agreed by everyone, by myself and my brother 311 00:19:23,370 --> 00:19:25,914 to be raised by our grandparents. 312 00:19:25,998 --> 00:19:31,670 So they got custody of us when I was probably around two years old 313 00:19:31,753 --> 00:19:35,966 And ultimately, um, they did adopt us. 314 00:19:36,049 --> 00:19:38,802 So I was raised by my paternal grandparents. 315 00:19:38,886 --> 00:19:41,471 You know, for me, they were my parents. 316 00:19:42,639 --> 00:19:46,393 My biological mother, I've not seen her since I was six years old. 317 00:19:46,476 --> 00:19:50,230 And then later in life, around 2007, 318 00:19:50,314 --> 00:19:52,065 we reconnected. 319 00:19:53,483 --> 00:19:55,068 I just remember my dad saying to me, 320 00:19:55,152 --> 00:19:58,322 "Samantha found her daughter." 321 00:19:58,405 --> 00:20:02,075 And I was like, "Oh! If you have her email address, I want to email her." 322 00:20:03,619 --> 00:20:08,081 It started out with these long emails back and forth to each other. 323 00:20:09,124 --> 00:20:11,293 And then texts and calls. 324 00:20:11,376 --> 00:20:16,632 After a while, I think we were talking, on some level, several days a week. 325 00:20:19,468 --> 00:20:20,719 And we just hit it off. 326 00:20:22,471 --> 00:20:25,891 And then she and I just started, like… I was on Suits at the time. 327 00:20:25,974 --> 00:20:27,434 So I said, "Let's go on vacation." 328 00:20:28,685 --> 00:20:30,812 She took me to New Orleans. 329 00:20:30,896 --> 00:20:34,441 We walked around. We listened to some good live music. 330 00:20:34,524 --> 00:20:37,569 Ate way too much food. Had way too many drinks. 331 00:20:38,612 --> 00:20:42,532 It was just the two of us, which I think was really special. 332 00:20:43,659 --> 00:20:45,827 I think she takes on a lot of roles for me. 333 00:20:46,745 --> 00:20:50,249 There's a sister element, there's something maternal. 334 00:20:50,332 --> 00:20:54,586 She's a best friend. She's kind of all the things… 335 00:20:59,925 --> 00:21:02,386 I think we both craved the same thing. 336 00:21:02,469 --> 00:21:06,139 I wanted a sister, and she was like a little sister. 337 00:21:07,516 --> 00:21:11,645 Ashleigh was put through quite a bit by the media, just by association. 338 00:21:11,728 --> 00:21:13,146 And I didn't want… 339 00:21:14,398 --> 00:21:16,858 I didn't want her life to be plagued with all that drama. 340 00:21:19,027 --> 00:21:21,571 After the news first broke, 341 00:21:21,655 --> 00:21:26,368 Samantha pretty quickly began expressing a lot of angry words 342 00:21:26,451 --> 00:21:29,413 about Meg towards me. 343 00:21:29,496 --> 00:21:34,668 What was communicated to me was maybe some resentment. 344 00:21:34,751 --> 00:21:39,089 And it felt like no matter what I said, 345 00:21:40,841 --> 00:21:46,471 you know, her perspective didn't change and seemed to get angrier and bigger. 346 00:21:46,555 --> 00:21:50,726 And we stopped talking. 347 00:21:53,854 --> 00:21:57,149 You know, some people you just can't reason with. 348 00:22:06,366 --> 00:22:10,537 It's your future wife's first Christmas with the in-laws. 349 00:22:10,620 --> 00:22:13,707 All of us have to explain certain things about our family 350 00:22:13,790 --> 00:22:16,084 to the person we're marrying. 351 00:22:16,168 --> 00:22:18,545 Where there family traditions you had to explain to her? 352 00:22:18,628 --> 00:22:22,049 Oh, plenty. I think we've got one of the biggest families I know of. 353 00:22:24,760 --> 00:22:27,471 And every family is complex as well so, 354 00:22:28,638 --> 00:22:31,308 she's done an absolutely amazing job. 355 00:22:31,391 --> 00:22:33,977 She's getting in there and, you know, it's… 356 00:22:34,895 --> 00:22:36,855 it's the family that I suppose she never had. 357 00:22:38,815 --> 00:22:42,944 I remember so vividly the first Christmas at Sandringham. 358 00:22:43,695 --> 00:22:45,864 Calling my mom, and she's like, "How's it going?" 359 00:22:45,947 --> 00:22:47,824 And I said, "Oh my gosh, it's amazing." 360 00:22:48,992 --> 00:22:52,537 It's just like a big family like I always wanted. 361 00:22:54,289 --> 00:22:59,377 And there was just this constant movement and energy and fun. 362 00:23:00,796 --> 00:23:04,299 At dinner, I was sat next to H's grandfather. 363 00:23:04,382 --> 00:23:07,010 And I just thought it was so wonderful. 364 00:23:07,094 --> 00:23:09,054 And I was like, "Oh, we chatted and it was so great." 365 00:23:09,137 --> 00:23:10,680 And I talked about this, and talked about this. 366 00:23:10,764 --> 00:23:13,391 He was like, "You had his bad ear. He couldn't hear anything you were saying." 367 00:23:13,475 --> 00:23:15,936 I was like, "Oh. Well, I thought it went really well." 368 00:23:22,609 --> 00:23:25,195 Tonight, there is a new royal scandal. 369 00:23:25,278 --> 00:23:28,698 The wife of one of the queen's cousin, Princess Michael of Kent, 370 00:23:28,782 --> 00:23:33,036 wore what's called a blackamoor brooch to the Queen's annual Christmas Lunch. 371 00:23:33,120 --> 00:23:35,372 The jewelry is widely viewed as racist. 372 00:23:35,455 --> 00:23:38,708 And the decision to wear it quickly drew criticism on social media. 373 00:23:43,296 --> 00:23:48,009 When I heard about Meghan at an event where 374 00:23:48,093 --> 00:23:51,638 a member of her soon-to-be family was wearing a blackamoor brooch, 375 00:23:51,721 --> 00:23:53,431 I wasn't hugely surprised 376 00:23:53,515 --> 00:23:57,185 because one of the realities of life in Britain 377 00:23:57,269 --> 00:24:01,273 is that if you go into a palace, or a stately home, 378 00:24:01,356 --> 00:24:03,358 or anywhere that represents tradition, 379 00:24:04,025 --> 00:24:06,444 you are likely to be faced with racist imagery. 380 00:24:06,528 --> 00:24:09,197 There are murals on the wall, carvings on the ceiling 381 00:24:09,281 --> 00:24:11,283 that depict enslaved people 382 00:24:11,366 --> 00:24:15,036 in a way that glorifies the institution of slavery. 383 00:24:17,038 --> 00:24:21,001 You could say, "A small thing, a brooch. She probably didn't mean any harm by it." 384 00:24:21,084 --> 00:24:24,129 If you magnify that thousands of times, 385 00:24:24,212 --> 00:24:26,423 "It was just a painting, it was just a slave, 386 00:24:26,506 --> 00:24:27,799 it was just a plantation…" 387 00:24:28,383 --> 00:24:30,427 These are the skeletons in the closet that 388 00:24:30,510 --> 00:24:34,055 frequently make an unwelcome appearance in daily life. 389 00:24:37,559 --> 00:24:39,186 In this family, sometimes 390 00:24:39,269 --> 00:24:41,521 you know, you're part of the problem rather than part of the solution. 391 00:24:42,272 --> 00:24:46,276 And there is a huge level of unconscious bias. 392 00:24:49,362 --> 00:24:52,282 The thing with unconscious bias is it's actually no one's fault. 393 00:24:52,365 --> 00:24:57,704 But once it's been pointed out or identified within yourself, 394 00:24:57,787 --> 00:24:59,497 you then need to make it right. 395 00:25:00,123 --> 00:25:02,459 It's education. It's awareness. 396 00:25:02,542 --> 00:25:06,338 And it's a constant work in progress 397 00:25:06,421 --> 00:25:09,174 for everybody, including me, you know. 398 00:25:10,175 --> 00:25:13,053 British headline writers have been salivating today, 399 00:25:13,136 --> 00:25:16,556 Prince Harry's choice to wear a Nazi uniform earlier this month 400 00:25:16,640 --> 00:25:20,227 to a private party has caused outrage. 401 00:25:20,310 --> 00:25:23,521 Many are questioning the sensitivity of a 20-year old Prince 402 00:25:23,605 --> 00:25:26,441 who chooses to party in a Nazi uniform. 403 00:25:28,526 --> 00:25:31,238 It was probably one of the biggest mistakes in my life. 404 00:25:32,405 --> 00:25:34,366 I felt so ashamed afterwards. 405 00:25:36,743 --> 00:25:38,620 All I wanted to do was make it right. 406 00:25:40,330 --> 00:25:43,708 We sat down and spoke to the chief rabbi in London, 407 00:25:43,792 --> 00:25:46,628 which had a profound impact on me. 408 00:25:46,711 --> 00:25:50,006 I went to Berlin and spoke to a Holocaust survivor. 409 00:25:52,550 --> 00:25:56,930 I could've ignored it and probably made the same mistakes over again in my life. 410 00:25:57,597 --> 00:25:59,891 But I learned from that. 411 00:26:05,897 --> 00:26:10,360 Harry, he was not too dissimilar to a lot of boys I went to school with. 412 00:26:14,739 --> 00:26:17,575 You know, they were in an echo chamber of absolute privilege 413 00:26:17,659 --> 00:26:21,621 that afforded them to live a very particular life. 414 00:26:22,914 --> 00:26:24,791 And once you step out of that, 415 00:26:25,875 --> 00:26:28,962 you realize that there's a much bigger world. 416 00:26:36,553 --> 00:26:39,055 Everyone, the Duke and Duchess. 417 00:26:39,139 --> 00:26:40,515 Hi, how are you? 418 00:26:41,808 --> 00:26:43,184 Okay, thank you. 419 00:26:43,977 --> 00:26:45,395 -Hi. -How're you doing? 420 00:26:45,478 --> 00:26:47,355 -Hi, guys. -Hello. 421 00:26:47,439 --> 00:26:49,774 How long have you guys been sitting in here for? 422 00:26:49,858 --> 00:26:51,151 In silence. 423 00:26:51,234 --> 00:26:53,570 Hello, hello. 424 00:26:53,653 --> 00:26:54,696 Probably having breakfast too. 425 00:26:54,779 --> 00:26:55,613 Yeah. 426 00:26:55,697 --> 00:26:57,907 Hi every body. How are you doing? 427 00:26:57,991 --> 00:26:59,200 I'm never gonna remember these names so… 428 00:26:59,284 --> 00:27:01,036 -Look, we don't know each other. 429 00:27:01,119 --> 00:27:03,079 It is just like speech. 430 00:27:03,163 --> 00:27:04,873 It's so weird. 431 00:27:05,915 --> 00:27:07,250 Watching my husband over there, 432 00:27:07,334 --> 00:27:09,753 you could see how much joy it brings him to be back on a base. 433 00:27:09,836 --> 00:27:12,756 So he immediately goes back to military banter. 434 00:27:13,340 --> 00:27:17,344 Everybody, it's amazing how long you all stay on. The pension's 20 years, right? 435 00:27:17,427 --> 00:27:18,636 Once you get to a certain point, 436 00:27:18,720 --> 00:27:20,263 it's like the point of no return. 437 00:27:20,347 --> 00:27:23,058 You're like, "Oh, 12 years-ish? Well, may as well stay now." 438 00:27:23,141 --> 00:27:24,976 Well, I signed up with the three. 439 00:27:25,060 --> 00:27:29,522 And then they kept dangling the carrot of different options in front of me. 440 00:27:29,606 --> 00:27:31,983 And I ended up serving ten years. 441 00:27:35,362 --> 00:27:37,197 My ten years in the army, 442 00:27:38,114 --> 00:27:43,078 it gave me a lived experience that other members of my family wouldn't have had. 443 00:27:47,999 --> 00:27:52,295 Two tours in Afghanistan, flying apache helicopters on a military base 444 00:27:52,379 --> 00:27:54,714 means that you grow up pretty fast. 445 00:27:56,508 --> 00:27:58,134 Jeez, I went to war twice. 446 00:28:04,140 --> 00:28:05,683 The people that I met 447 00:28:06,643 --> 00:28:08,686 and the lifelong friends made, 448 00:28:10,188 --> 00:28:11,731 that was my second family. 449 00:28:12,649 --> 00:28:18,238 Because that… for that point. Yeah, there's still scars left open from 450 00:28:18,321 --> 00:28:21,658 from my mum's awesomeness… to put it mildly. 451 00:28:22,242 --> 00:28:25,203 Hopefully, she'll be proud. William sent me a letter 452 00:28:25,286 --> 00:28:27,664 saying how proud he reckons she'll be. 453 00:28:28,706 --> 00:28:31,751 You know, it's one thing that I don't necessarily think about the whole time 454 00:28:31,835 --> 00:28:33,461 because I've got the guys to worry about. 455 00:28:37,132 --> 00:28:41,219 We've been married ten years and done five moves since we've been married so… 456 00:28:41,302 --> 00:28:44,305 Three kids in ten years, and five moves. 457 00:28:44,389 --> 00:28:47,642 -Yeah, so we've been busy. 458 00:28:47,726 --> 00:28:49,853 -Well, not that way. 459 00:28:49,936 --> 00:28:53,314 Well, in every way. That's good, that's cool. That's fine. 460 00:28:55,191 --> 00:28:59,112 Working and living with normal people… 461 00:28:59,195 --> 00:29:01,906 and I fully appreciate that my life is not normal… 462 00:29:02,741 --> 00:29:05,034 Has… certainly has an effect on you, right? 463 00:29:06,286 --> 00:29:09,581 The bubble within the bubble that I was brought up in got burst. 464 00:29:12,208 --> 00:29:15,628 Ultimately, I'm so grateful for it. 465 00:29:17,172 --> 00:29:20,133 And that was all before I met Meghan. 466 00:29:22,385 --> 00:29:26,514 What I'd like to say is, depression is a family secret that we all share. 467 00:29:26,598 --> 00:29:29,851 And sharing our story allows others to tell theirs in return, 468 00:29:29,934 --> 00:29:32,562 so on behalf of the Bulldogs, 469 00:29:32,645 --> 00:29:35,607 and ur, those that help generate the airplanes 470 00:29:35,690 --> 00:29:38,234 that deliver hope to others, I wanna give this to you. 471 00:29:39,486 --> 00:29:41,613 -Thank you very much. -I appreciate that. 472 00:29:45,158 --> 00:29:47,911 So this coin comes from the 108 maintenance squadron. 473 00:29:47,994 --> 00:29:50,079 I'm the commander, that squadron's first female commander. 474 00:29:50,163 --> 00:29:51,414 -Breaking barriers-- -They'll know. 475 00:29:52,457 --> 00:29:55,293 But, uh, it means a lot to me to be able to give this to you 476 00:29:55,376 --> 00:29:57,754 because of all the barriers that you've broken for the world. 477 00:29:57,837 --> 00:29:59,756 -And that's very special. -Thank you. 478 00:29:59,839 --> 00:30:02,801 Sir, no offense, but this is her… 479 00:30:02,884 --> 00:30:05,887 -If anyone that starts with that… 480 00:30:07,347 --> 00:30:11,476 Our life was, "Okay, we're gonna do this job together," and… 481 00:30:12,727 --> 00:30:15,730 that felt great cause I'd been doing that on my own for so long. 482 00:30:15,814 --> 00:30:19,234 I also think, what she was already doing, what I was already doing, 483 00:30:19,317 --> 00:30:24,489 that sort of came together in this beautiful matrimony. 484 00:30:38,962 --> 00:30:42,882 Welcome to the very first Royal Foundation forum. 485 00:30:42,966 --> 00:30:45,385 Now, the principle of working together 486 00:30:45,468 --> 00:30:48,596 is in the foundation's DNA. This is the only charity-- 487 00:30:48,680 --> 00:30:52,684 The Royal Foundation was the charity that was originally set up 488 00:30:52,767 --> 00:30:58,523 for William and Harry to launch their charitable endeavors. 489 00:31:00,024 --> 00:31:02,235 Their Royal Foundation is a team effort, 490 00:31:02,318 --> 00:31:04,612 but we also seem to get an insight 491 00:31:04,696 --> 00:31:07,782 into how Meghan may want to do things her own way. 492 00:31:07,866 --> 00:31:09,784 Most attention was on Meghan Markle and 493 00:31:09,868 --> 00:31:11,661 what sort of issues she will take on. 494 00:31:11,744 --> 00:31:15,957 Meghan, it's well known, you've championed the empowerment of women and young girls, 495 00:31:16,040 --> 00:31:17,792 and promoting their self-worth. 496 00:31:17,876 --> 00:31:21,880 How do you hope to continue that work with the Royal Foundation? 497 00:31:23,256 --> 00:31:25,884 Um, women don't need to find a voice. They have a voice. 498 00:31:25,967 --> 00:31:27,760 They need to feel empowered to use it. 499 00:31:27,844 --> 00:31:29,929 And people need to be encouraged to listen. 500 00:31:30,013 --> 00:31:32,432 And I think right now, in the climate that we're seeing, 501 00:31:32,515 --> 00:31:35,768 with so many campaigns, I mean MeToo… 502 00:31:35,852 --> 00:31:40,106 there is no better time than to really continue to shine a light on 503 00:31:40,189 --> 00:31:43,985 women feeling empowered and people really helping to support them. 504 00:31:44,068 --> 00:31:46,654 This is the first time that we've heard anyone 505 00:31:46,738 --> 00:31:51,117 associated with the Royal Family talking about those campaigns. 506 00:31:51,200 --> 00:31:54,162 Kate, for example, didn't wear black to the BAFTAs. 507 00:31:54,245 --> 00:31:57,457 And Camilla, who also supports women's organizations 508 00:31:57,540 --> 00:32:01,586 hasn't mentioned MeToo or or TimesUp. The Kensington Palace stressed… 509 00:32:01,669 --> 00:32:05,423 It's important to remember the Royal Family in the UK 510 00:32:05,506 --> 00:32:08,217 and the causes that they champion 511 00:32:08,301 --> 00:32:11,679 are deliberately non-controversial. 512 00:32:11,763 --> 00:32:14,515 Meghan was more of an activist. 513 00:32:14,599 --> 00:32:16,517 I didn't know that that… 514 00:32:17,727 --> 00:32:19,938 would be taboo to talk about. 515 00:32:20,021 --> 00:32:21,856 To me, it was just topical. 516 00:32:21,940 --> 00:32:25,944 All the work you do together is great but working together as family, 517 00:32:26,027 --> 00:32:27,904 do you ever have disagreements about things? 518 00:32:29,405 --> 00:32:30,406 Oh yes. 519 00:32:32,617 --> 00:32:33,660 Healthy disagreements. 520 00:32:33,743 --> 00:32:36,663 Okay, the last thing you disagreed on, how did you resolve it? 521 00:32:37,622 --> 00:32:40,500 Uh, I can't remember… They come so thick and fast! 522 00:32:42,168 --> 00:32:43,628 -But is it resolved? We don't know. -We don't know. 523 00:32:43,711 --> 00:32:44,629 Oh, you don't know? 524 00:32:44,712 --> 00:32:46,923 Well, you're putting on a great show if it's not. 525 00:32:47,590 --> 00:32:51,010 The younger Royals held first event as a foursome this morning. 526 00:32:51,594 --> 00:32:54,597 We were looking at the future of the British monarchy. 527 00:32:55,348 --> 00:32:56,849 This is the woman who's turning 528 00:32:56,933 --> 00:33:00,103 Britain's most traditional brand on its head. 529 00:33:00,186 --> 00:33:03,481 Meghan Markle isn't British, she's been married before, 530 00:33:03,564 --> 00:33:07,276 she's mixed-race, and she doesn't shy away from politics. 531 00:33:07,944 --> 00:33:10,989 That will have to stop now, of course, in public at least. 532 00:33:12,532 --> 00:33:14,117 Joining this family, 533 00:33:14,200 --> 00:33:18,621 I knew that there was a protocol for how things were done. 534 00:33:18,705 --> 00:33:22,125 And, do you remember that old movie, Princess Diaries with Anne Hathaway? 535 00:33:22,834 --> 00:33:24,210 -Me? 536 00:33:24,293 --> 00:33:28,297 A… a princess? Shut up! 537 00:33:28,381 --> 00:33:33,261 I can teach you to walk, talk, sit, stand, eat, dress like a princess. 538 00:33:33,344 --> 00:33:36,097 There's no class and some person who goes, "Sit like this. 539 00:33:36,180 --> 00:33:39,100 Cross your legs like this. Use this fork. Don't do this. 540 00:33:39,183 --> 00:33:42,395 Curtsy then. Wear this kind of hat." 541 00:33:42,478 --> 00:33:43,563 -It doesn't happen. 542 00:33:44,439 --> 00:33:46,691 Some people on Twitter are suggesting it looked a bit 543 00:33:46,774 --> 00:33:48,693 like the Happy Poo emoji. 544 00:33:54,741 --> 00:33:56,409 So I needed to learn a lot. 545 00:33:57,160 --> 00:33:58,911 Including the National Anthem. 546 00:33:59,620 --> 00:34:01,080 How did you learn it? 547 00:34:01,748 --> 00:34:03,332 Oh, I Googled it. 548 00:34:07,420 --> 00:34:11,090 Well, girls, your last day at the Zermat school for young ladies. 549 00:34:11,716 --> 00:34:14,010 Your final and most important lesson. 550 00:34:14,093 --> 00:34:18,014 [Meghan I Googled it, and I'd sit there and I'd practice and I'd practice. 551 00:34:18,097 --> 00:34:20,391 She broke Royal protocol by the… 552 00:34:20,475 --> 00:34:22,852 …she and Harry are not yet married. 553 00:34:22,935 --> 00:34:27,982 And then on top of that, with the press lots of invented protocols. 554 00:34:29,692 --> 00:34:31,694 There was baptism by fire. 555 00:34:33,154 --> 00:34:35,323 Meghan! We love you, Meghan! 556 00:34:35,406 --> 00:34:36,908 Give us a wave! 557 00:34:39,368 --> 00:34:41,037 Meghan! 558 00:34:42,538 --> 00:34:45,291 I have to ask, did anyone have to teach you how to do the wave? 559 00:34:45,374 --> 00:34:48,711 That's not a thing. You just sort of watch and go, "Okay, I guess that's what…" 560 00:34:48,795 --> 00:34:52,381 I don't know. I guess you don't wanna wave 561 00:34:52,465 --> 00:34:55,343 like an American. Like, "Hey!" 562 00:34:55,426 --> 00:34:56,886 Everything is just… 563 00:34:59,347 --> 00:35:00,515 …smaller. 564 00:35:09,023 --> 00:35:11,400 -Hello? -Hello? 565 00:35:11,484 --> 00:35:13,152 -Hi! -Hi, how are you? 566 00:35:13,236 --> 00:35:14,070 Come on in. 567 00:35:14,153 --> 00:35:16,114 -Should we take our shoes off? -Ah, yeah. I think it's fine. 568 00:35:16,197 --> 00:35:18,199 It's fine. How are you? 569 00:35:18,282 --> 00:35:19,909 -I'm good. And you? -Oh my gosh. Look at this. 570 00:35:19,992 --> 00:35:22,286 You too. Come in. 571 00:35:28,584 --> 00:35:30,628 Wow. Look at this piece. 572 00:35:30,711 --> 00:35:32,672 I mean, we really went from dress to dress. 573 00:35:32,755 --> 00:35:34,215 -Yes? Okay. -We go dress to dress. 574 00:35:40,680 --> 00:35:41,514 Does it feel tight? 575 00:35:41,597 --> 00:35:43,224 No. Not at all. It feels great. 576 00:35:45,601 --> 00:35:47,228 I step into this? 577 00:35:49,564 --> 00:35:50,648 Have you ever had four people helping you into a dress? 578 00:35:50,731 --> 00:35:52,066 No! Never! 579 00:35:55,194 --> 00:35:56,362 The safety pins. 580 00:35:56,445 --> 00:35:58,156 Please tell me you're getting that. 581 00:35:59,824 --> 00:36:01,742 There are now three people under your dress. 582 00:36:04,787 --> 00:36:06,497 -Do you have enough light? 583 00:36:08,124 --> 00:36:10,459 -You're offering me a flashlight? -This is called a rhetorical question. 584 00:36:12,128 --> 00:36:13,212 Good? 585 00:36:13,296 --> 00:36:15,214 The color is amazing. 586 00:36:17,341 --> 00:36:20,386 Most of the time that I was in the UK, 587 00:36:20,469 --> 00:36:22,513 I rarely wore color. 588 00:36:26,225 --> 00:36:29,896 There was thought in that. To my understanding, 589 00:36:29,979 --> 00:36:32,899 you can't ever wear the same color as Her Majesty, 590 00:36:32,982 --> 00:36:34,317 if there's a group event. 591 00:36:34,901 --> 00:36:36,736 But then you also should never be wearing the same color 592 00:36:36,819 --> 00:36:39,822 as one of the other more senior members of the family. 593 00:36:41,115 --> 00:36:44,702 So I was like, "Well, what's a color that they'll probably never wear?" 594 00:36:45,494 --> 00:36:48,873 Camel? Beige? White? 595 00:36:48,956 --> 00:36:53,044 So I wore a lot of muted tones, but it also was so I could just blend in. 596 00:36:55,004 --> 00:36:57,632 Like, I'm not trying to stand out here. 597 00:36:59,508 --> 00:37:03,971 So there's no version of me joining this family 598 00:37:05,097 --> 00:37:08,184 and trying to not do everything I could to fit in. 599 00:37:09,143 --> 00:37:11,103 I don't want to embarrass the family. 600 00:37:15,858 --> 00:37:17,860 Some of the bride's family don't know yet 601 00:37:17,944 --> 00:37:20,238 if they'll be invited to Windsor Castle, 602 00:37:20,321 --> 00:37:23,699 including Meghan's half-sister, Samantha Markle, 603 00:37:23,783 --> 00:37:27,411 who's made plenty of her own headlines in the leadup to the Royal Wedding. 604 00:37:27,495 --> 00:37:31,040 Her half-sister is also writing a tell-all disparaging book. 605 00:37:31,123 --> 00:37:33,251 Kensington Palace is not commenting. 606 00:37:33,334 --> 00:37:35,962 But you guys, to be a fly on the wall when he gets to meet 607 00:37:36,045 --> 00:37:37,380 Harry and the Royal Family for the first time. 608 00:37:37,463 --> 00:37:41,259 We were playing whack-a-mole everyday. 609 00:37:41,342 --> 00:37:43,344 It was like, "Wait, another one popped up. Wait, stop. 610 00:37:43,427 --> 00:37:45,638 Another story popped." Constant. 611 00:37:45,721 --> 00:37:49,642 They were going through the woodwork and pulling out people 612 00:37:49,725 --> 00:37:53,604 to create and plant the most salacious stories that they could. 613 00:37:56,941 --> 00:37:59,026 And then it started to get scary. 614 00:37:59,735 --> 00:38:02,071 Police say a white powder letter 615 00:38:02,154 --> 00:38:03,698 was sent to soon-to-be-Royal, Meghan Markle… 616 00:38:03,781 --> 00:38:07,243 …package was since learnt to be some kind of white substance… 617 00:38:07,326 --> 00:38:11,080 …Markle has been subjected to a wave of abuse and of harassment… 618 00:38:11,163 --> 00:38:12,248 in National newspapers and… 619 00:38:12,331 --> 00:38:14,709 This was on the heels of those terrorist attacks, right? 620 00:38:14,792 --> 00:38:16,085 So there was so much concern about the wedding. 621 00:38:17,503 --> 00:38:21,173 And it was just so scary and they were talking about getting snipers and… 622 00:38:21,257 --> 00:38:22,300 It was a public event, right? 623 00:38:25,928 --> 00:38:27,847 Behind the scenes of all that… 624 00:38:29,015 --> 00:38:32,393 I was just turtling. 625 00:38:35,980 --> 00:38:41,777 Communication with Meg became… less and less frequent. 626 00:38:42,903 --> 00:38:45,990 My impression was that her relationships 627 00:38:47,575 --> 00:38:50,578 were being managed on some level. 628 00:38:54,040 --> 00:39:00,087 For every duke and duchess, there is also a communication team. 629 00:39:00,171 --> 00:39:04,258 Comms for the Royal Family is very similar to a press office, 630 00:39:04,342 --> 00:39:08,804 Press spokesperson for politicians and businesses, celebrities. 631 00:39:09,805 --> 00:39:12,767 There is a Communications team at Buckingham Palace, 632 00:39:12,850 --> 00:39:15,686 at Clarence House, at Kensington Palace, 633 00:39:15,770 --> 00:39:21,150 all of whom had a primary duty to their own principals. 634 00:39:22,151 --> 00:39:26,364 These communications teams allow the Family 635 00:39:26,447 --> 00:39:30,868 to be one step removed from dealing with the media. 636 00:39:30,951 --> 00:39:36,415 Overall, there is an aspiration for a controlled narrative. 637 00:39:37,416 --> 00:39:41,295 Our comms team at that time was joined with my brother's office. 638 00:39:41,379 --> 00:39:45,299 So in total, there was only one person really dedicated to us. 639 00:39:45,383 --> 00:39:46,967 So it really was a huge undertaking. 640 00:39:51,097 --> 00:39:52,807 I don't think anyone understands 641 00:39:52,890 --> 00:39:57,353 what that very small comms team was dealing with. 642 00:39:57,436 --> 00:40:02,066 They just couldn't wrap their heads around it. And I have compassion for it. 643 00:40:02,149 --> 00:40:07,113 How do we explain that this half-sister isn't invited to the wedding, 644 00:40:07,196 --> 00:40:10,116 but that the half-sister's daughter is? 645 00:40:11,409 --> 00:40:13,786 And so with Ashleigh, 646 00:40:13,869 --> 00:40:17,623 the guidance at the time was to not have her come to our wedding. 647 00:40:19,458 --> 00:40:23,879 I was in the car with H. I had her on speaker phone and we talked her through 648 00:40:23,963 --> 00:40:27,716 what guidance we were being given and why this assessment was made and… 649 00:40:31,846 --> 00:40:33,264 And that's painful. 650 00:40:35,266 --> 00:40:39,854 I think I said I was hurt on some level but I… 651 00:40:41,689 --> 00:40:44,066 understood where it was coming from. 652 00:40:47,486 --> 00:40:52,616 To know that it was because of my biological mother that 653 00:40:53,409 --> 00:40:57,746 this relationship that's so important to me 654 00:40:57,830 --> 00:40:59,790 was impacted in that way… 655 00:41:04,795 --> 00:41:08,382 To feel like because of her, it was taken away… 656 00:41:10,050 --> 00:41:11,343 it's been hard. 657 00:41:19,685 --> 00:41:22,771 Across the pond tonight, a save-the-date notice of sorts, 658 00:41:22,855 --> 00:41:24,899 as the Palace has released new details… 659 00:41:24,982 --> 00:41:26,734 In the run up to the wedding… 660 00:41:28,152 --> 00:41:31,697 the sense of excitement for the country was incredible. 661 00:41:32,573 --> 00:41:35,743 It's wonderful. She's different, she's the 21st century. 662 00:41:35,826 --> 00:41:36,994 That's what we need now. 663 00:41:37,077 --> 00:41:38,996 Yeah man, it's just a good, happy feeling. 664 00:41:39,079 --> 00:41:40,789 You gotta like a good old wedding. 665 00:41:40,873 --> 00:41:43,709 First and foremost, I was pretty surprised Harry could actually bag a girl like that. 666 00:41:45,544 --> 00:41:48,923 They were just so evidently really in love. 667 00:41:49,548 --> 00:41:51,383 And I think it radiated out. 668 00:41:51,467 --> 00:41:52,760 Everyone's happy. 669 00:41:53,427 --> 00:41:55,221 Nice. 670 00:41:55,304 --> 00:41:59,099 I'm looking at it through the lens of my friend, not a Princess. 671 00:42:00,684 --> 00:42:02,978 They as a couple are so tight. 672 00:42:03,562 --> 00:42:06,941 And rely on each other so much, and are each other's 673 00:42:07,024 --> 00:42:09,652 best, best friends. 674 00:42:12,363 --> 00:42:15,157 I was just super excited. 675 00:42:20,579 --> 00:42:23,290 This is a big day for Meghan Markle. 676 00:42:23,374 --> 00:42:25,918 Just minutes ago, the Royal Family arrived. 677 00:42:26,001 --> 00:42:30,756 at Westminster Abbey in central London for a service marking Commonwealth Day… 678 00:42:30,839 --> 00:42:32,466 The many-colored flags were carried 679 00:42:32,550 --> 00:42:36,845 by young nationals of the countries joining in the celebrations. 680 00:42:36,929 --> 00:42:42,184 It remains a great pleasure and honor to serve you as Head of the Commonwealth. 681 00:42:42,268 --> 00:42:46,438 Here at Buckingham Palace, in 1949, 682 00:42:46,522 --> 00:42:49,400 my father met the Heads of Government 683 00:42:49,483 --> 00:42:52,945 when they ratified the London Declaration, 684 00:42:53,028 --> 00:42:55,990 which created the Commonwealth as we know it today. 685 00:42:56,865 --> 00:42:58,534 God save the King. 686 00:43:01,328 --> 00:43:02,955 When you study the transition 687 00:43:03,038 --> 00:43:05,416 from colonialism to independence in those countries, 688 00:43:05,499 --> 00:43:08,460 you see that Britain played a very strategic role. 689 00:43:10,546 --> 00:43:14,508 Britain calculated that it needed to grant these countries independence 690 00:43:14,592 --> 00:43:18,304 in a way that protected its commercial and capitalist interest. 691 00:43:18,387 --> 00:43:22,808 So it created this privileged club of formally colonized nations 692 00:43:22,891 --> 00:43:24,268 called the Commonwealth. 693 00:43:24,893 --> 00:43:27,271 Excitement in Accra, capital of the Gold Coast, 694 00:43:27,354 --> 00:43:28,230 reached its first climax 695 00:43:28,314 --> 00:43:31,609 with the preparations for welcoming the royal visitor. 696 00:43:31,692 --> 00:43:32,818 The British Monarchy 697 00:43:32,901 --> 00:43:36,196 is different from the other monarchies in Western Europe 698 00:43:36,280 --> 00:43:38,824 in being an international monarchy, 699 00:43:38,907 --> 00:43:42,953 with the Queen being Head of State to over a dozen other countries around the world. 700 00:43:43,662 --> 00:43:45,497 On my 21st birthday, 701 00:43:45,581 --> 00:43:50,085 I am 6000 miles from the country where I was born. 702 00:43:50,169 --> 00:43:53,672 But I am certainly not 6000 miles from home. 703 00:43:55,049 --> 00:43:59,053 At the center of the argument for the monarchy in this country, 704 00:43:59,678 --> 00:44:00,804 is the Commonwealth. 705 00:44:01,639 --> 00:44:06,185 The Queen made it her life mission to fight for this institution. 706 00:44:06,268 --> 00:44:07,353 She's famous for it. 707 00:44:07,436 --> 00:44:11,231 She's deeply respected for having kept this institution together. 708 00:44:11,899 --> 00:44:15,861 I declare before you all that my whole life, 709 00:44:15,944 --> 00:44:17,404 whether it be long or short, 710 00:44:18,530 --> 00:44:22,743 shall be devoted to the service of our great Imperial family, 711 00:44:22,826 --> 00:44:24,453 to which we all belong. 712 00:44:26,246 --> 00:44:29,917 If we all go forward together with an unwavering faith, 713 00:44:30,793 --> 00:44:34,296 the Commonwealth will continue to offer stability 714 00:44:34,380 --> 00:44:37,508 and continuity for future generations. 715 00:44:41,595 --> 00:44:43,305 The Commonwealth is still described as that, you know, 716 00:44:43,389 --> 00:44:45,974 a club of friends who share common values. 717 00:44:46,058 --> 00:44:47,893 I find that language really problematic. 718 00:44:47,976 --> 00:44:51,230 I sometimes call the Commonwealth "Empire two point zero" 719 00:44:51,313 --> 00:44:53,315 because that is what it is. 720 00:44:53,899 --> 00:44:56,235 Well, it's not changed a thing, they've just got better PR. 721 00:44:57,152 --> 00:44:59,113 If you look at the Black people in the Commonwealth, 722 00:44:59,196 --> 00:45:03,283 well their conditions are almost just as bad as they were 50 or 100 years ago. 723 00:45:04,785 --> 00:45:05,994 And the roots of that poverty 724 00:45:06,078 --> 00:45:09,623 are based on the extraction of their wealth elsewhere. 725 00:45:09,706 --> 00:45:14,128 Those in Britain who extracted that wealth continue in inter-generational wealth. 726 00:45:14,211 --> 00:45:17,923 Those from whom it was extracted continue to be inter-generationally poor. 727 00:45:18,006 --> 00:45:20,426 It's a very clear economic relationship. 728 00:45:22,302 --> 00:45:26,014 And yet, the current narrative in Britain is that it's old history, 729 00:45:26,098 --> 00:45:27,891 there's no point looking back. 730 00:45:28,767 --> 00:45:34,273 It's incredibly painful for the very many millions of British people 731 00:45:34,356 --> 00:45:38,402 who have a different memory of empire in their personal background. 732 00:45:41,655 --> 00:45:43,866 And yet, here was a woman 733 00:45:43,949 --> 00:45:47,453 who just looked like most of the people in the Commonwealth. 734 00:45:48,495 --> 00:45:51,290 Meghan represented something. 735 00:45:51,373 --> 00:45:52,249 There was a hope, 736 00:45:52,332 --> 00:45:55,502 "Well, maybe this is a way of having these difficult conversations 737 00:45:55,586 --> 00:45:57,754 that had been pushed away so many times. 738 00:46:03,510 --> 00:46:04,845 Prince Harry and Meghan Markle will attend 739 00:46:04,928 --> 00:46:06,513 a small special memorial later 740 00:46:06,597 --> 00:46:10,309 to mark the 25th anniversary of the death of Stephen Lawrence. 741 00:46:11,101 --> 00:46:13,395 An 18-year-old boy has been stabbed to death 742 00:46:13,479 --> 00:46:15,481 as he waited for a bus with a friend in Southeast London. 743 00:46:15,564 --> 00:46:17,065 Not far away, he and a friend 744 00:46:17,149 --> 00:46:19,067 were approached by a gang of up to half a dozen… 745 00:46:19,151 --> 00:46:23,822 …stabbed by a group of white thugs in an unprovoked attack. 746 00:46:23,906 --> 00:46:28,577 This was a story of two tragedies. 747 00:46:28,660 --> 00:46:32,080 The murder of Stephen Lawrence, and then the inability 748 00:46:32,164 --> 00:46:35,918 of the legal system and of the police to provide justice. 749 00:46:36,001 --> 00:46:38,086 No one has ever been convicted over the death of Stephen. 750 00:46:38,170 --> 00:46:40,088 Local feeling about racist attacks 751 00:46:40,172 --> 00:46:42,633 in this area has been running high for over two years now. 752 00:46:43,258 --> 00:46:46,428 I'm absolutely shocked. I didn't expect this to happen again. 753 00:46:46,512 --> 00:46:49,181 How much is it? How much is a Black life worth? 754 00:46:49,848 --> 00:46:52,226 Pandemonium outside the Stephen Lawrence enquiry 755 00:46:52,309 --> 00:46:53,519 as the five suspects… 756 00:46:53,602 --> 00:46:56,647 Fighting broke out at the Stephen Lawrence enquiry today 757 00:46:56,730 --> 00:47:00,108 as the five young white men fought with an angry crowd. 758 00:47:02,319 --> 00:47:06,365 It was such an egregious, such an appalling, such a disturbing case 759 00:47:06,448 --> 00:47:09,868 -that it became too difficult to ignore. 760 00:47:10,827 --> 00:47:13,705 And it made the complaints, the observations, 761 00:47:13,789 --> 00:47:16,583 the experiences of Black people difficult to deny. 762 00:47:19,002 --> 00:47:21,922 Hanging over this memorial, the terrible fact 763 00:47:22,005 --> 00:47:26,093 that only two of Stephen's killers have been brought to justice. 764 00:47:28,470 --> 00:47:30,430 I think that it was really significant 765 00:47:30,514 --> 00:47:32,015 that Meghan and Harry visited this memorial 766 00:47:32,099 --> 00:47:35,894 because it represented a direct attempt to speak to the pain 767 00:47:35,978 --> 00:47:38,730 that many people still feel as a result of the murder of Stephen Lawrence. 768 00:47:38,814 --> 00:47:40,899 A quarter of a century later, 769 00:47:40,983 --> 00:47:43,819 we could only imagine the man who Stephen would have become. 770 00:47:44,820 --> 00:47:48,740 And that was really welcomed by many Black communities in Britain. 771 00:47:51,785 --> 00:47:54,329 I always perceived Prince Harry as 772 00:47:55,163 --> 00:47:59,209 just another senior royal who's a little bit racist, 773 00:47:59,293 --> 00:48:01,295 very ignorant… 774 00:48:01,378 --> 00:48:05,757 But I have watched him on this journey and seen that he has really embraced 775 00:48:05,841 --> 00:48:08,927 the education that is required for someone like him, 776 00:48:09,845 --> 00:48:12,681 to transform themselves into an anti-racist. 777 00:48:20,272 --> 00:48:24,776 The excitement here in Windsor… it's building. 778 00:48:25,944 --> 00:48:27,487 We've reached the final 12 days. 779 00:48:27,571 --> 00:48:29,197 I cannot believe it's this close. 780 00:48:29,281 --> 00:48:31,241 A hundred thousand people will be trying 781 00:48:31,325 --> 00:48:32,868 to squeeze onto these pavements on Saturday… 782 00:48:32,951 --> 00:48:35,829 She's going to make history on the 19th of May. 783 00:48:35,912 --> 00:48:37,539 And we're ever so proud of Meghan. 784 00:48:37,623 --> 00:48:38,790 Is it going to be a wild one? 785 00:48:38,874 --> 00:48:40,292 Aw, definitely! 786 00:48:43,045 --> 00:48:47,424 Meghan Markle's route to the chapel on the morning of 19th May 787 00:48:47,507 --> 00:48:49,635 will start off unconventionally 788 00:48:49,718 --> 00:48:52,346 because it will be her mother who will be in the car with her 789 00:48:52,429 --> 00:48:56,183 as she drives here along the long walk up to the castle. 790 00:48:56,266 --> 00:49:00,812 Meghan will meet her father, Thomas Markle at the West Steps to St. George's Chapel 791 00:49:00,896 --> 00:49:03,315 before he walks her down the aisle. 792 00:49:03,398 --> 00:49:06,193 But when Meghan's father flies in on the week before the wedding, 793 00:49:06,276 --> 00:49:10,781 he will be meeting his daughter's soon- to-be husband for the very first time. 794 00:49:12,658 --> 00:49:15,035 There was excitement leading up to the wedding 795 00:49:15,118 --> 00:49:19,956 but she also had to contend with everybody else. 796 00:49:30,217 --> 00:49:31,760 It's amazing what people would do 797 00:49:31,843 --> 00:49:33,804 when offered a huge amount of money. 798 00:49:35,639 --> 00:49:40,102 Fifty thousand, a hundred thousand, to hand over photographs, 799 00:49:40,185 --> 00:49:41,687 to create a story… 800 00:49:44,606 --> 00:49:48,235 And thank God most of them said no. 801 00:49:54,741 --> 00:49:55,951 The week before our wedding, 802 00:49:56,034 --> 00:50:00,539 We got a call from our joint communications secretary. 803 00:50:00,622 --> 00:50:04,543 He said, "This story is going to come out tomorrow 804 00:50:04,626 --> 00:50:08,213 saying your father has been staging pictures and taking money from the press." 805 00:50:08,296 --> 00:50:09,423 And I was like, "What kind of pictures?" 806 00:50:12,843 --> 00:50:15,846 They were relatively innocuous enough. 807 00:50:15,929 --> 00:50:22,144 You know, there was… one of him looking at a book 808 00:50:22,769 --> 00:50:24,646 of the UK. 809 00:50:24,730 --> 00:50:27,649 I remember I naively went into the office 810 00:50:27,733 --> 00:50:29,943 and I said, "Isn't that sweet?" 811 00:50:30,026 --> 00:50:33,822 As I genuinely was in this, sort of, 812 00:50:33,905 --> 00:50:37,200 matrimony love-fest bubble. 813 00:50:37,284 --> 00:50:42,748 And a colleague sort of brought me down to earth fairly quickly 814 00:50:42,831 --> 00:50:45,500 and said, "That's a setup." 815 00:50:48,962 --> 00:50:50,756 That was the first I was hearing of it. 816 00:50:52,257 --> 00:50:55,343 And I remember Jason said, "You just need to call him and find out if this is true 817 00:50:55,427 --> 00:50:57,679 or not because it could be really damaging." 818 00:51:00,682 --> 00:51:02,517 H and I called my dad. 819 00:51:03,810 --> 00:51:07,105 I said, "They're saying you're taking money from the tabloids to stage photos. 820 00:51:07,189 --> 00:51:08,815 Is this true?" He says, "No." 821 00:51:12,861 --> 00:51:17,240 And on that call, I'd said to him, "Look. If they can't stop it this story, 822 00:51:17,324 --> 00:51:19,785 then it's going to come out tomorrow 823 00:51:19,868 --> 00:51:23,747 so whey don't we send someone right now to your house to get you out of there now 824 00:51:23,830 --> 00:51:27,209 because if that's the case, your house'll be swarmed by media. We'll get you out." 825 00:51:27,292 --> 00:51:31,713 I was like, "We'll just come and get you a day early and take you out of Mexico." 826 00:51:31,797 --> 00:51:33,882 And he said, "No. I have things I need to do." 827 00:51:37,093 --> 00:51:39,304 And it felt really cagey. 828 00:51:41,765 --> 00:51:44,100 I was like, "It doesn't make sense." 829 00:51:44,893 --> 00:51:46,228 And when we hung up, 830 00:51:48,271 --> 00:51:50,065 I looked at H. 831 00:51:52,609 --> 00:51:55,153 I was like, "I don't know why but I don't believe him." 832 00:51:56,863 --> 00:52:00,826 The buzz, this morning, centers around Meghan Markle's father. 833 00:52:05,121 --> 00:52:08,667 Mr. Markle allegedly staged photos of himself for paparazzi, 834 00:52:08,750 --> 00:52:12,170 selling them for a reported 100,000 dollars. 835 00:52:12,254 --> 00:52:16,299 This is tabloid fodder. They're going crazy with this story this morning. 836 00:52:17,551 --> 00:52:21,513 Everyone was so frantic with preparing for the wedding itself. 837 00:52:22,222 --> 00:52:25,725 And then all of a sudden, it just exploded. 838 00:52:26,476 --> 00:52:28,478 I was absolutely stunned 839 00:52:28,562 --> 00:52:33,733 that Tom would become part of this circus. 840 00:52:33,817 --> 00:52:35,735 As the photo scandal swirls around… 841 00:52:35,819 --> 00:52:38,655 I felt sad that the media would run with this. 842 00:52:38,738 --> 00:52:40,699 Do you have any reaction to your ex-husband's 843 00:52:40,782 --> 00:52:44,077 apparently staging photos for the paparazzi? 844 00:52:45,161 --> 00:52:48,039 That he would capitalize… 845 00:52:50,166 --> 00:52:54,296 Certainly as a parent. It's not… No. That's not what you do. 846 00:52:54,379 --> 00:52:55,881 That's not parenting. 847 00:52:57,966 --> 00:53:00,844 Paps and journalists immediately were following him all day everyday. 848 00:53:01,428 --> 00:53:04,890 The unraveling happened that week when he wouldn't pick up my call. 849 00:53:04,973 --> 00:53:07,100 And instead you're talking to TMZ. 850 00:53:08,393 --> 00:53:11,521 We just broke a big bad story on our website. 851 00:53:11,605 --> 00:53:15,984 Meghan Markle was supposed to be walked down the aisle by her father. 852 00:53:16,067 --> 00:53:21,156 And we found out from her father, not only would he not do that, 853 00:53:21,239 --> 00:53:24,117 he's not gonna attend the wedding at all. 854 00:53:24,200 --> 00:53:27,203 And I'm finding out that you're not coming to our wedding… 855 00:53:28,914 --> 00:53:30,540 through a tabloid. 856 00:53:33,418 --> 00:53:36,004 Meghan's father, 73 years old Thomas Markle, 857 00:53:36,087 --> 00:53:37,923 reportedly suffering a heart attack, 858 00:53:38,006 --> 00:53:40,550 after enduring a scandal these past three days 859 00:53:40,634 --> 00:53:43,595 with staged paparazzi photos that went viral. 860 00:53:43,678 --> 00:53:46,056 And then suddenly they were saying he was in the hospital. 861 00:53:47,432 --> 00:53:49,434 I said, "What's going on? Please just pick up the phone. 862 00:53:49,517 --> 00:53:52,354 Like, We're not mad. Just please pick up the phone." 863 00:53:56,858 --> 00:54:00,570 He told me he had a heart attack six days ago. 864 00:54:00,654 --> 00:54:03,865 -We need to know what's going on. -Calling and calling. 865 00:54:03,949 --> 00:54:06,743 This is not him saying, "I will… I don't wanna be there." 866 00:54:06,826 --> 00:54:08,328 No, I get it. I'm not saying… 867 00:54:08,411 --> 00:54:11,164 The world is watching this drama play out. 868 00:54:11,247 --> 00:54:14,000 For everybody, Thomas Markle 869 00:54:20,215 --> 00:54:22,717 Once it was said in the media, he just stopped calling 870 00:54:22,801 --> 00:54:25,512 We need to know what's going on. I don't understand what's going on. 871 00:54:25,595 --> 00:54:28,431 "Are you okay? What hospital are you at?" 872 00:54:29,224 --> 00:54:31,017 We were just trying to understand what's going on. 873 00:54:31,101 --> 00:54:36,439 How do you not have your daddy at your wedding? 874 00:54:45,782 --> 00:54:50,745 And then, someone texted back on his phone. 875 00:54:53,957 --> 00:54:58,044 It was really weird. You know how people text, right? 876 00:54:58,128 --> 00:55:00,130 Like, you know, my dad used a lot of emojis 877 00:55:00,213 --> 00:55:03,091 and a lot of like, ellipses and dot-dot-dot and… 878 00:55:04,467 --> 00:55:08,179 And this was just the opposite. 879 00:55:10,181 --> 00:55:11,766 And it called me Meghan. 880 00:55:14,352 --> 00:55:18,398 I was like, "He's never called me Meghan in my… any day I've lived on this planet. 881 00:55:18,481 --> 00:55:21,985 Meg. All my friends call me Meg and my parents call me Meg. 882 00:55:22,068 --> 00:55:23,820 And I was like, "That's not my dad." 883 00:55:28,491 --> 00:55:31,745 So then, we knew that his phone had been compromised. 884 00:55:38,043 --> 00:55:41,004 And we said, "Pick up the phone. We need to know it's you." 885 00:55:42,422 --> 00:55:43,339 Never spoke to him. 886 00:55:46,843 --> 00:55:50,305 Of course, it's incredibly sad what happened. She had a father before this. 887 00:55:50,388 --> 00:55:51,723 And now she doesn't have a father. 888 00:55:52,557 --> 00:55:54,851 And I shouldered that. 889 00:55:54,934 --> 00:55:57,604 Because if Meg wasn't with me, 890 00:55:57,687 --> 00:56:02,233 then her dad would still be her dad. 891 00:56:06,029 --> 00:56:07,489 Okay, great too. 892 00:56:07,572 --> 00:56:09,991 -Hi, Daddy. I got the English award. -I know. 893 00:56:10,992 --> 00:56:14,746 Okay. Alright. Am I there? I wonder. 894 00:56:14,829 --> 00:56:18,666 Okay. See you later. Bye-bye. Where's the little button? 895 00:56:20,543 --> 00:56:22,879 Woah. I gotta zoom back on you. 896 00:56:22,962 --> 00:56:24,631 Gotta push that button in the back. 897 00:56:34,641 --> 00:56:38,103 We're about 24 hours away from the Royal Wedding and excited… 898 00:56:38,186 --> 00:56:40,313 More than two billion people worldwide 899 00:56:40,396 --> 00:56:42,690 are expected to watch the wedding on TV. 900 00:56:46,236 --> 00:56:48,279 There is so much excitement in the air. 901 00:56:48,363 --> 00:56:52,534 In so many ways, this is a Royal Wedding unlike any other. 902 00:56:53,118 --> 00:56:56,121 The big reveal in just 24 hours. 903 00:58:28,379 --> 00:58:34,260 Subtitle translation by: Regina Njoku