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There are
a lot of allegations swirling around
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about corruption in soccer.
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People told us about it.
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We came to see evidence of it,
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but getting something
sort of specific and detailed
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that you could really hang your hat on
as a prosecutor was a challenge.
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The FBI investigation
of FIFA began
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before the infamous vote in 2010,
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but in the year and a half
the investigation's been open,
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they learned very little
because they haven't had this person
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who can tell them what's happening.
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Chuck Blazer. He's the guy they needed.
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Chuck is not a whistleblower.
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Chuck is a criminal
who was caught in his criminality
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and was deployed
to capture other criminals,
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and he made that deal
to stay out of prison.
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Part of his job
is to rat out people.
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Part of his job is to tell them
where there's bad behavior
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and who they should be looking at.
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As we said to him,
it's not for him to determine
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if he was getting somebody in trouble.
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It's for him to just cut through the, uh…
the BS and get to the real facts.
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People who had been
his confederates in criminality,
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they weren't gonna get to stick around
and keep enjoying the lifestyle
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to which they'd become accustomed
when he was out.
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Whistleblower is
no longer quite the term.
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He's singing like a canary.
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He opens their eyes
to whole new universes of corruption
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that they had never really contemplated.
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They said,
"We're gonna give you a key chain."
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"Just toss your keys on the table
when you are having dinner with somebody
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and that will record the conversations."
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And he said, "That is
so low-class. I wouldn't do that."
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They said, "Mr. Blazer,
you will do what we tell you to do."
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The hierarchy was defined for us
if you look at the ExCo,
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and as with all enterprise investigations,
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you wanna get to the top.
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I would say when people
are talking about the explosion in 2015,
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it's what happened in 2011.
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That's where everything started.
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And I had this feeling. From 2011,
I knew that we were going into a wall.
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-Next, please.
-Mr. President?
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Listen, gentlemen,
we are not in a bazaar here.
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We're in the FIFA house,
so please don't intervene.
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When I was asked to help FIFA
establish a governance program
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that was worthy of this century,
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FIFA had been battered by then,
uh, by bad press
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because there'd been scandal
after scandal, dating back for years.
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The allegations of corruption swirling,
well, pretty much everywhere.
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Jack Warner, who was at the center
of bribery accusations, has resigned.
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There's been so many corruption scandals.
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It's astonishing,
just some of the allegations.
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At that point, Sepp Blatter just decided
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that he needed to do something
in order to, um, gain the narrative back.
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Now we are going into a new period
of the FIFA transparency.
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Zero tolerance. It's for everybody.
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There was the strong sense,
and it was pitched this way,
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that it's going to stop now, "Enough."
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"You need to tell us what we need to do
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to make sure we can salvage our reputation
and… and pull out of this patch."
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The new Ethic Committee
will have the possibility
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to initiate investigation
in case of credible allegations.
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My absolute expectation was
that FIFA was sincere
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in improving its governance,
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but I didn't realize, uh,
how much of a monarch he was.
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The congress in 2011,
when I have been re-elected,
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has decided three different matters.
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Transparency in finances,
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improve organization
of the Ethics Committee,
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and the third one,
to have a better governance.
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It's sufficient to have the controls
from within FIFA?
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You don't want to bring
independent bodies from the outside?
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We have independent, uh, chairs, chairmen
on these committees I just mentioned.
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They are totally independent chairmen.
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-Paid by FIFA?
-Uh, paid by FIFA, nat… naturally.
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Nobody is working free of charge nowadays
in professional football.
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That's… that's not possible.
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The Independent Governance Committee,
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our first meeting was
in Zurich at headquarters.
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Very strange place.
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The boardroom feels very bunker-ish,
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and I remember just taking a seat
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and people sort of sucking in their breath
because I had… I… I sat in his seat.
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It wasn't like there was a throne
or an elevated chair
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or it looked in any way different,
but it was a seat that nobody can sit in
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because it was… it was his.
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There's a very rigid hierarchy.
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There are a couple of people
at or very near the top,
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and they are largely unquestioned.
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Blatter used to like to say,
"We keep it in the football family."
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"It's nobody's business."
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"Uh, we are more private about
financial things here in Switzerland."
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This is a nonprofit organization.
Where's the accountability?
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What stops a few key people
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right at the top
of an organization like FIFA
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from giving each other raises
and enormous bonuses?
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You know, it is easy to control
football when it's played on the field
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because you have a referee,
you have a time limit,
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and you have boundaries.
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But outside the field of play,
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you have no referee,
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you have no, uh, time limit,
and you have no boundaries.
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Thank you. Thank you so much.
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-Thank you, Al Jazeera.
-Much appreciated.
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Chuck was the first cooperator,
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but we had a number
of cooperating witnesses after that.
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Our maths is very easy.
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We give three to Brazil,
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three to Argentina,
and three to the president .
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And a million and a half
to seven presidents.
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- Seven?
-Seven presidents.
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-A million and a half.
-Why?
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Because there is a country
to which we do not give anything.
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Because he's honest.
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Who can be hurt by this deal?
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Everyone! We will all end up
in jail! Everyone. You. Me.
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Jack Warner was
right up there in the top three
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of people they were most eager to get.
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Because of his relationship with Blazer,
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they had an enormous amount
of documentary evidence of corruption
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on Jack Warner's sons.
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They were laundering money for him
throughout the world,
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particularly in the US.
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We went to their condominium.
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It was early in the morning.
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We knew that Jack Warner was gonna be
in the country at the time.
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Basically woke them up, arrested them.
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And while FBI agents
are handcuffing his sons,
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they say to him, "Listen, Jack,
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this is your opportunity
to get your sons off the hook."
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He was a high-ranking government official
in Trinidad at the time.
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They couldn't legally arrest him
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without special diplomatic permission,
which they didn't have.
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He looked them in the eye
and wished his sons the best of luck,
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and hopes they get a good lawyer,
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but he's not gonna help
anybody do anything.
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And with that,
I declare open the 62nd FIFA Congress
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here in Budapest, 2012.
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-Welcome to Budapest. Thank you.
-Thank you.
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FIFA President Sepp Blatter
was there
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to tell delegates that the organization
is involved in a reform process.
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This year, the countries
of North and Central America
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and the Caribbean, which make up CONCACAF,
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had the important task
of installing the fourth president
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in their confederation's 49-year history.
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Jeffrey Webb, a 47-year-old banker
from the Cayman Islands,
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immediately emphasized the subject
on which he'd campaigned.
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We're not a perfect family.
We are a family.
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And in every family,
we have problems, we have issues,
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and how you get through those issues
is we work our way through them.
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You're coming off of this major scandal.
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Scandal after scandal after scandal,
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and here comes Jeffrey Webb.
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We must move the clouds
and allow the sunshine in.
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Charismatic, very charismatic,
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has the ability to calm the waters
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and to save the day
and turn CONCACAF around.
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But we have a responsibility to make sure
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that the past will never be repeated.
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He was groomed.
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He had all the backing
from FIFA that he needed.
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He knew full well what he was going into.
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Jeff Webb, as soon as he had got
his feet under the table at CONCACAF,
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had immediately started asking for bribes.
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Jeff wants 15.
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Then it ended up being 12.
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Welcome, Jeffrey Webb.
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How much went
to the CONMEBOL people?
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Ended up being ten.
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Turns out that Jeffrey Webb was every bit
as corrupt as Jack Warner was before him.
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He was every bit as dirty. Jeffrey Webb
was demanding 10 million, 15 million.
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He wanted gigantic bribes.
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And we were just amazed
to watch people slotting into roles,
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committing crimes themselves,
and it was just astonishing to us,
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but also gave us a sense of the…
the scale of what we were up against.
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There were undoubtedly people
who absolutely knew
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what they were doing was wrong,
and they did it anyway.
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But I think over time,
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the lines between right and wrong
had been blurred.
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You would have
people seeing it as perhaps,
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"That is the rules of engagement."
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First of all,
Alexandra Wrage, sitting on my right side,
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is here as a specialist
on integrity checks.
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The congress itself was
just such a strange… strange event.
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Lavish and… and sort of decorated
with women dressed in long gowns,
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standing very still
as if they were statues,
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and it was very, um, disconcerting.
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Just the excess around FIFA continued to…
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to startle me all the way through.
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Who wouldn't enjoy that lifestyle
in an ongoing way?
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The question is, what are you willing
to do to stay committed to it?
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Qatar Airways has
three flights a day into Kathmandu.
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Many passengers are
Nepalese workers taking a break
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from World Cup-related construction jobs
in Doha.
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Outside Arrivals,
this woman waits for her husband.
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It will not be a joyous reunion.
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When he left for Qatar six months ago,
she was his wife.
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Today, she's his widow.
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Because the World Cup is on,
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the workers will have now
better conditions,
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not only in Qatar,
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but in all the Arabic countries,
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thanks to the World Cup.
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The Indian
and Nepalese embassies suggest
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that well over a thousand guest workers
have died in the last two years.
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But in no way can FIFA accept
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to be responsible
for the welfare of… of, uh, workers.
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They belong, uh, to commercial
and industrial companies
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of other countries.
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We couldn't do that.
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Thank you for the question. I like that.
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Thank you so much. Thank you.
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Fifty-two hundred.
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That's not the number of fans
or players or sponsorship benefactors.
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Fifty-two hundred is
the number of workers expected to die
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building the infrastructure
for the games by 2022.
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It is unacceptable
for any major event to be built
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on the bloods of innocents.
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End of story.
That is as simple as it goes.
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The perception
in the outside world, sir,
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is that that is exactly
what's happening here.
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And that is…
that is a wrongful perception.
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To start off with, World Cup-related…
World Cup projects are…
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there is no deaths and no fatalities
that occurred on them.
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No stadiums
have been built yet.
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We're starting to build them.
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But lots of people
have died in other projects.
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And there are steps being taken
towards resolving that as well.
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I'm not embarrassed of saying
that when we started off,
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the situation was horrendous.
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Plain and simple.
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But one of the legacy objectives
of this tournament
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is reforming the working conditions
and the labor reforms in the country.
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We have the desire to fix.
We have the intention to fix.
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It's not a PR stunt.
That's the fundamental part.
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When FIFA held
their own investigation,
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which was done by the former
New York prosecutor Michael Garcia,
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and people expected a real bombshell,
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but they gave the Qatari bid
a clean bill of health.
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FIFA's own Ethics Committee
launched an investigation
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into these claims,
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but there now seem to be
conflicting views on the final report.
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Mr. Garcia
has now disowned the report.
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I don't think
you can take this report seriously now,
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because we did early this morning
when it was published,
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and then suddenly the person
who'd done the investigation disowned it.
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Just hours
after the report was published,
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Michael Garcia, the man
who spent two years on the investigation,
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branded the report "erroneous,"
and said he would appeal to FIFA.
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The tone at the top.
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What an institution
like FIFA needs is leadership.
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Leadership that sends a message
that the rules apply to everyone.
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Leadership that wants to understand
and learn from any mistakes or missteps
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the Ethics Committee may identify.
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It is that kind of leadership
that breathes life into a code of ethics
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because true reform comes from changing
the culture of the organization.
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As the Independent
Governance Committee,
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we had a long list of proposals
that we had made.
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You know, how, uh, salaries are set
and how new members are elected,
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whether the president should have
an age limit or a term limit,
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standard governance issues,
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and we… we weren't getting
very far with them.
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And we were at another meeting,
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and a recommendation
came down again from Blatter
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that the group start wrapping up,
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that it spend less money and less time.
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What became clear to me
was that it was a whitewash, a PR stunt,
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and, um, then I was out.
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I had not ever been involved
in a situation
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as cynical as this turned out to be.
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Sepp Blatter started getting consumed
by his own greed,
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his own ambition to stay in power.
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He… he had agreed to leave the seat
to Michel Platini,
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then people convinced him otherwise.
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At some point,
he started being delusional
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and wanted to win the Nobel Peace Prize.
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He was hallucinating that he's going
to bring peace in the Middle East.
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It's quite insane, um,
to… to be in this position.
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You have such a potential impact
because football is so important
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in term of, uh, what it means in countries
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and how it help countries to go through
good things, bad things, etcetera.
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FIFA is just beyond everything.
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The FIFA president is
in the same group of people
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as the head of state.
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I think it is a recognition,
not only for my name.
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It is a recognition of FIFA,
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the recognition
what FIFA is doing all around the world.
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I don't think there's a single day
I was not pinching myself
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by thinking, "No, no, no, it's a dream."
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Maybe Blatter was the only one
thinking that it could be forever.
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Sepp Blatter, he was a master operator,
and he was determined to stay in charge.
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Blatter promises continuity and that
he'll keep the development money coming,
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and there is essentially no reforms,
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and Blatter becomes absolutely consummate
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at the external politics,
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which is about how FIFA relates
and flourishes in the world.
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This is shake hands for peace.
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I have spoken
with Prime Minister Netanyahu
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to organize in months,
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in a year, whatever,
but the will is there,
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to organize a football match for peace
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between Palestine and, uh, Israel,
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and we organize it in Zurich.
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Uh, he will be there,
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and he said
he will shake hands with everybody.
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Between 2011 and 2015,
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it became too much,
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in term of financial power
and in term of political power.
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And Blatter is responsible for that.
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Having a life as if nothing has happened,
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supporting reforms,
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but in the meantime,
you are not reforming yourself.
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They just try to put some painting
on the wall to make it look better,
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but at the end, it was exactly the same.
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People were just not able to, uh,
to… to stop them.
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It's true that he was
close to the… to the sun.
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We were, in a way, close to the sun,
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and that's where I would say FIFA died.
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The Justice Department's case
against FIFA is evolving in secret,
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but they're making incredible traction.
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They're building what becomes,
in their opinion,
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a watertight case
showing widespread corruption
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throughout world soccer.
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Among the most important allegations
they make
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is the $10 million paid by South Africa
in the name of the diaspora fund
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to Jack Warner and to Chuck Blazer.
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That's documented. They have it proved.
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They write it in black and white
in a way no one's done before.
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The $10 million
African diaspora fund.
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There could hardly be a more valid cause,
and there was never any legacy program.
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It was a bribe to vote for South Africa.
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Blazer pleaded guilty to that.
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That's in an actual document
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that Chuck Blazer signed
and pleaded guilty to.
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Obviously, Jack Warner denies,
and it's never come to trial,
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but that accusation is… is there
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in black and white
in the criminal indictment
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and in Chuck Blazer's guilty plea.
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When Blazer pled guilty
in a sealed courtroom,
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that, I think, brought home to me,
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if we were doing this with the doors open,
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this would be, um, an enormous moment.
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The racketeering conspiracy crime
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that he pled guilty to,
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we knew someday
we were going to put into an indictment
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and go arrest people.
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Jeffrey, is this election
gonna be a foregone conclusion on Friday?
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There's gonna be an election.
Someone's gonna win.
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It's gonna be Sepp Blatter,
isn't it?
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I don't know. You're telling me.
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You're the expert. I think the election
is great for FIFA. It's good for FIFA.
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Why do you still think
Sepp Blatter is right for football
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and it's not time for change?
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I didn't tell you I thought that.
So, goodbye!
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I can remember very well driving
across the Brooklyn Bridge into Manhattan
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to go to FBI headquarters
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to wait for the news
coming in from Switzerland.
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The sort of calm before the storm,
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buzzing with the excitement
of this moment right before.
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We had indicted 14 people.
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We had no idea how many
we would be able to arrest on that day.
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May 27th, 2015.
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It was like
something out of a film script.
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I remember waking up
and initially seeing a missed call,
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and then seeing
a couple of text messages,
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and then seeing some WhatsApps,
and then going on social media.
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Suddenly, the reality is coming,
uh, just smashing in your face.
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I got a call telling me
that the FBI came in.
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And a number of people have been arrested,
including Jeffrey Webb and other members.
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I called Jeffrey Webb's wife,
and I will never forget.
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She said that the guy said to Jeffrey,
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"You can hug your son because you will
not see him for a very long time."
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The FBI goes after FIFA.
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Arrests happening right now
over corruption allegations
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involving the world football's
governing body.
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Corruption crackdown
going down right now.
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Swiss police, we understand,
raided one of the main FIFA hotels.
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There was little bits of information
coming out here and there.
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And then you see
the pictures of the ExCo members
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being led out of the Baur au Lac
shrouded in… in bedsheets.
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Fourteen people
are actually implicated
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in widespread, systemic corruption.
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Some of the most important men
in world football were arrested.
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One of the men who has been taken away is
the president of CONCACAF, Jeffrey Webb.
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You really couldn't believe it,
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but then the pieces
of the jigsaw fit together.
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It was tremendously exciting
hearing the news
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that one and then two
and three and four had been arrested,
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and I couldn't believe
it was finally happening.
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Sepp Blatter
isn't among those arrested,
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but this afternoon
presides over a governing body in crisis.
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It was really exciting,
but it also didn't last that long
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because I had to get home
and try to sleep for a couple of hours
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before the press conference
the next morning.
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The Department of Justice held
a video press conference in New York.
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Such an astonishing day in FIFA history,
in football history--
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Alex, I'm just going to interrupt you.
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Loretta Lynch has just stepped up
to the podium.
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Good morning, everyone.
Thank you all for being here today.
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The 14 defendants charged
in the indictment we are unsealing today
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include high-ranking officials of FIFA.
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Two generations of soccer officials
used their positions of trust
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to solicit bribes
to decide who would televise games,
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where the games would be held,
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and who would run the organization
overseeing organized soccer worldwide.
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When the FBI and the DOJ and the IRS
finally deliver in 2015 to the public
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the fruits of this investigation,
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it's a stunning laundry list
of corruption at every level.
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They didn't put out one thing.
They put out hundreds of things.
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This really is the World Cup of fraud,
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and today, we are issuing FIFA a red card.
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The first time
you read the indictment,
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it's like a tidal wave hits.
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You're getting punched
every different direction.
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You got these people, senior people,
accused of bribery and corruption.
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All of these defendants
abused the US financial system…
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I think it was the scale of it
that shocked and surprised so many people.
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I would put it in the same category
as Lance Armstrong or Oscar Pistorius
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or the Russian doping scandal.
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They were expected to uphold
the rules that keep soccer honest
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and to protect the integrity of the game.
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Instead, they corrupted
the business of worldwide soccer
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to serve their interests
and to enrich themselves.
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I'm getting phone calls
and questions from my news colleagues.
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Suddenly, sport set the news agenda.
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The US authorities suspect those arrested
of taking part in a 24-year scheme
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to enrich themselves…
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The way Loretta Lynch
and Jim Comey talked about FIFA,
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they used charges that normally
are associated with the Mafia
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or, uh, Mexican drug cartels.
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The game was hijacked.
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This hijacking is being met
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with a very aggressive
prosecutorial response
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in order to change behavior.
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This investigation has been
long and painstaking, and it is not over.
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The US is vowing
this is only the beginning
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to rid the nonprofit organization,
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in charge of the most popular sport
in the world, of corruption.
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Whoa, wait. Hold on.
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You're not just saying
these people did it.
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You might be suggesting
FIFA's responsible for this.
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And if that's the case,
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that's a potential planet-killing event,
uh, for FIFA.
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Wow. It's… It was…
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It was incredible. It was, uh, shameful.
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Uh, it was unbelievable.
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The impact of these arrests,
of these images, was just disastrous.
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I mean, FIFA became toxic.
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FIFA became a… a criminal organization.
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UEFA is deeply shocked
and saddened by them.
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These events show once again
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that corruption is deeply rooted
in FIFA's culture.
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I feel let down.
I'm sickened and fed up.
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Enough is enough.
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Clearly,
if these things were true,
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there was a big problem
at the heart of how FIFA was operating.
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The buck stops somewhere,
and Blatter and Valcke had been in place,
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especially Blatter, for a long time.
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It's like the end of the world.
That's the feeling you have. It's…
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The organization will just collapse.
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You are not anymore in control,
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and the system
will just smash you in… in pieces.
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Sepp Blatter wasn't charged himself
by the US authorities
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with any corruption himself.
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But you're talking about people
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that he'd sat round the most senior table
at FIFA with for decades
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and had been his allies as well.
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Will you resign, Mr. Blatter?
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FIFA's invisible man
shows his face at last.
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Sepp Blatter may be on the brink,
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but it's clear
he's planning to brazen it out.
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The Americans,
they wanted absolutely my head,
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but they have realized I was not the man
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who organized corruption
with the members of the ExCo.
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The bribery, the kickbacks,
the pay-to-play, so to speak,
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in order to get contracts,
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none of that would have happened
without the…
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the interaction
that these executives had at FIFA,
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the various hierarchies and rules at FIFA.
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These are… unprecedented
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and difficult times for FIFA.
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I'm sure more bad news may follow,
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but it is necessary
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to begin to restore trust
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in our organization.
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There was just a lot of shock,
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00:30:04,160 --> 00:30:10,320
and people were stunned
by the words that were being used.
488
00:30:10,400 --> 00:30:13,160
You know, when you're talking
about corruption and fraud
489
00:30:13,240 --> 00:30:15,960
and the FBI and the attorney general,
490
00:30:16,640 --> 00:30:19,200
there's no way
this election can take place.
491
00:30:20,000 --> 00:30:24,040
Will Sepp Blatter survive?
That's a question on everyone's mind.
492
00:30:24,120 --> 00:30:27,600
But because it was FIFA,
because it was Sepp Blatter,
493
00:30:28,360 --> 00:30:32,360
it wasn't surprising,
and it added to the drama.
494
00:30:36,880 --> 00:30:39,760
-I want the right person.
-Is that Mr. Blatter or Prince Ali?
495
00:30:39,840 --> 00:30:41,120
Everybody knows that one.
496
00:30:42,000 --> 00:30:45,960
Mr. Blatter has done well for Africa.
He has done well for Africa.
497
00:30:47,000 --> 00:30:52,480
They love Blatter because Blatter put
some of the countries on the map.
498
00:30:56,800 --> 00:31:00,880
Before, I was really proud
to be a member of the ExCo of FIFA.
499
00:31:00,960 --> 00:31:03,040
You cannot be proud at that moment.
500
00:31:04,120 --> 00:31:06,240
When I heard
that the accusations of corruption
501
00:31:06,320 --> 00:31:09,480
towards some people were concrete,
I really became angry.
502
00:31:10,320 --> 00:31:14,560
And I always said then,
"If one of us is corrupt, we all are,"
503
00:31:14,640 --> 00:31:16,480
and that is precisely what happened.
504
00:31:19,360 --> 00:31:23,240
I'm being blamed for this storm.
505
00:31:25,400 --> 00:31:26,400
Well, fine, then.
506
00:31:26,960 --> 00:31:30,480
Fine! I'll take the responsibility.
507
00:31:31,200 --> 00:31:34,040
I think he had just reached the point
508
00:31:34,120 --> 00:31:37,120
where he believed
in his own invulnerability.
509
00:31:37,200 --> 00:31:40,200
I'm with you, and simply…
510
00:31:43,440 --> 00:31:45,240
…simply, I'd like to stay with you.
511
00:31:46,560 --> 00:31:48,280
I just want to stay with you.
512
00:31:49,360 --> 00:31:51,520
I want to continue with you.
513
00:31:52,840 --> 00:31:56,960
People were arrested,
and they were walked out of the hotel,
514
00:31:57,040 --> 00:32:00,240
some of them with sheets
over their heads like common criminals.
515
00:32:03,120 --> 00:32:05,000
France, booth one.
516
00:32:05,080 --> 00:32:08,840
And then the football associations
around the world
517
00:32:08,920 --> 00:32:13,920
went ahead and re-elected Sepp Blatter
like nothing had happened.
518
00:32:14,800 --> 00:32:17,600
Mr. Blatter is elected FIFA president
519
00:32:17,680 --> 00:32:19,680
for the term of 2015-2019.
520
00:32:21,920 --> 00:32:23,680
With all eyes on FIFA,
521
00:32:23,760 --> 00:32:26,440
the most powerful man in football,
Sepp Blatter,
522
00:32:26,520 --> 00:32:29,720
has won a fifth term
as president of that organization.
523
00:32:37,760 --> 00:32:42,000
Sepp Blatter was
the Godfather of football.
524
00:32:42,480 --> 00:32:45,680
To be elected five times as…
as president,
525
00:32:45,760 --> 00:32:47,800
to have reigned at FIFA
526
00:32:48,480 --> 00:32:51,440
from 1998 until 2015.
527
00:32:52,760 --> 00:32:56,160
And in his eyes,
and I think so many other people's eyes,
528
00:32:56,920 --> 00:32:59,040
he was untouchable.
529
00:32:59,920 --> 00:33:01,600
But he was the man
530
00:33:01,680 --> 00:33:05,520
who was head at what was
without doubt the most turbulent,
531
00:33:05,600 --> 00:33:09,040
darkest period in… in FIFA's history.
532
00:33:09,760 --> 00:33:15,440
And if you are the person
who has been head of an organization,
533
00:33:15,520 --> 00:33:17,160
you are culpable to some degree.
534
00:33:19,840 --> 00:33:22,120
But this is Sepp Blatter,
and this was FIFA.
535
00:33:25,640 --> 00:33:30,000
The Department of Justice had
questions about what FIFA was all about
536
00:33:30,560 --> 00:33:31,960
because there was this pivot.
537
00:33:32,040 --> 00:33:34,520
"Are we a criminal organization,
or are we a victim?"
538
00:33:35,160 --> 00:33:40,000
You know, from their perspective,
maybe it is a Mafia-style organization.
539
00:33:40,080 --> 00:33:42,480
Marco Villiger, the chief legal officer,
540
00:33:42,560 --> 00:33:45,880
who's really the person
who hired us and also supervised us,
541
00:33:45,960 --> 00:33:48,680
he was not remotely associated
with any of the issues.
542
00:33:49,560 --> 00:33:53,480
To their credit,
FIFA gave Marco full authority
543
00:33:53,560 --> 00:33:59,000
to do what he thought was necessary
to comply with FIFA's legal obligations
544
00:33:59,080 --> 00:34:01,680
and to make sure that FIFA survives.
545
00:34:02,280 --> 00:34:05,200
One of the things we had to do
was educate the authorities,
546
00:34:05,280 --> 00:34:08,160
especially the US authorities,
about what FIFA really was.
547
00:34:11,360 --> 00:34:13,280
DOJ wanted us to show, not tell,
548
00:34:14,680 --> 00:34:16,400
through really two things.
549
00:34:17,400 --> 00:34:20,800
One was extensive, absolute cooperation.
550
00:34:20,880 --> 00:34:23,520
Huge numbers of documents and information.
551
00:34:23,600 --> 00:34:27,480
But there's also a broader question
about management of FIFA.
552
00:34:28,200 --> 00:34:31,560
Can the management
that had run the place before
553
00:34:31,640 --> 00:34:34,400
continue to run it
when you're trying to reform it?
554
00:34:39,400 --> 00:34:42,960
There's only so much
that even Sepp Blatter can brazen out.
555
00:34:44,800 --> 00:34:48,240
He came under
absolutely intolerable pressure.
556
00:34:48,760 --> 00:34:50,920
The elections are over.
557
00:34:52,600 --> 00:34:57,920
Despite the fact that the FIFA members
have elected me again,
558
00:34:58,000 --> 00:35:02,880
this result doesn't have
the support of the football world,
559
00:35:04,440 --> 00:35:07,800
which is why I have decided
to lay down my mandate
560
00:35:07,880 --> 00:35:11,480
at an extraordinary elective congress.
561
00:35:13,120 --> 00:35:15,040
Thank you for your attention.
562
00:35:18,600 --> 00:35:19,840
Breaking news now.
563
00:35:19,920 --> 00:35:22,240
FIFA President Sepp Blatter is resigning
564
00:35:22,320 --> 00:35:25,080
from his position,
even despite his recent re-election.
565
00:35:25,160 --> 00:35:30,680
Amanda, what a stunning turn of events
from a man who appeared to see himself
566
00:35:30,760 --> 00:35:33,000
as above all the controversy
just last week.
567
00:35:33,080 --> 00:35:36,880
Very quickly,
Sepp Blatter had a change of heart,
568
00:35:36,960 --> 00:35:40,760
which I don't think
anybody really saw coming.
569
00:35:43,400 --> 00:35:45,600
I felt that, you know, uh,
570
00:35:45,680 --> 00:35:50,720
that this… this was a judgement
from the… from the God, you know.
571
00:35:51,960 --> 00:35:54,400
Uh, because he did a lot of things
572
00:35:55,120 --> 00:35:57,560
to damage me, to damage my reputation.
573
00:35:58,080 --> 00:36:01,080
So, I'm thinking
that God accepted my prayers.
574
00:36:01,160 --> 00:36:03,800
This is for North Korea 2026.
575
00:36:03,880 --> 00:36:06,680
Oh, okay.
But, uh…
576
00:36:07,560 --> 00:36:10,200
But he paid the… the price in 2015.
577
00:36:10,280 --> 00:36:13,760
-Where is my security? Come on.
-I think we've just sealed the deal.
578
00:36:13,840 --> 00:36:15,200
Here we go, Sepp. Thanks.
579
00:36:17,800 --> 00:36:20,960
Okay, Sepp, it's all there, as discussed.
Thank you.
580
00:36:23,920 --> 00:36:26,840
Blatter may be going,
but it won't be quietly.
581
00:36:30,040 --> 00:36:33,120
He wanted to go
out of the front door on his own terms
582
00:36:33,200 --> 00:36:35,600
and not be thrown out the back door
583
00:36:35,680 --> 00:36:38,280
or be led out of the door
with a sheet over his head.
584
00:36:41,200 --> 00:36:45,600
He said he was going to step aside,
but was going to be in place long enough
585
00:36:45,680 --> 00:36:50,120
to oversee the election of his successor.
586
00:36:50,200 --> 00:36:54,720
So many had failed to dethrone Blatter
587
00:36:54,800 --> 00:36:58,720
that the question was, who is left
after all the allegations of corruption,
588
00:36:58,800 --> 00:37:01,960
and who is actually
a realistic presidential candidate?
589
00:37:05,560 --> 00:37:08,480
What happened then
was that, of course,
590
00:37:08,560 --> 00:37:12,640
Michel Platini was the candidate
of UEFA and of European football
591
00:37:12,720 --> 00:37:14,560
to become the new president of FIFA
592
00:37:14,640 --> 00:37:16,800
because Mr. Blatter
had decided to withdraw.
593
00:37:18,080 --> 00:37:21,360
So, we are all supporting Michel Platini
at the time,
594
00:37:21,440 --> 00:37:23,000
and all, uh, you know,
595
00:37:24,920 --> 00:37:29,600
hoping that he would bring
the new wind that FIFA needed.
596
00:37:33,320 --> 00:37:36,440
It was very important
to have a replacement
597
00:37:36,520 --> 00:37:39,760
who had credibility
across the board, right?
598
00:37:39,840 --> 00:37:45,800
As somebody who was not seen
as a creature of the prior, uh, regime.
599
00:37:46,640 --> 00:37:50,120
That was critical because you don't get
a second bite at this apple.
600
00:37:51,600 --> 00:37:55,400
For Platini, when he saw Blatter floored,
601
00:37:55,920 --> 00:38:00,320
uh, everything seemed to be a formality
and he would become FIFA president.
602
00:38:01,040 --> 00:38:04,080
But…
There was always gonna be a "but."
603
00:38:04,160 --> 00:38:10,040
That is when the… the leak emerged
of this disloyal payment,
604
00:38:10,120 --> 00:38:12,600
as, uh, it has become known,
605
00:38:13,240 --> 00:38:16,880
between Blatter and Michel Platini.
606
00:38:17,800 --> 00:38:18,960
And then…
607
00:38:20,320 --> 00:38:22,840
and then started another… another…
608
00:38:23,520 --> 00:38:24,360
another…
609
00:38:26,240 --> 00:38:28,360
The Swiss, uh, attorney…
610
00:38:30,320 --> 00:38:34,760
The Swiss, they have received,
uh, information
611
00:38:34,840 --> 00:38:40,040
that has happened in 2011
that I… I paid, uh…
612
00:38:40,800 --> 00:38:45,120
uh, whatever, two million,
uh, to Michel Platini.
613
00:38:50,680 --> 00:38:56,120
In 2011, there was a frustration
that Blatter kept staying on.
614
00:38:58,280 --> 00:39:02,680
Platini was obviously
lining himself up to go from UEFA to FIFA,
615
00:39:02,760 --> 00:39:03,760
and people thought
616
00:39:03,840 --> 00:39:07,240
that he might do it in 2011
and he might challenge Sepp Blatter.
617
00:39:09,080 --> 00:39:12,760
But for him to get
a two million Swiss franc payment
618
00:39:12,840 --> 00:39:16,960
from Blatter's FIFA just before that…
619
00:39:17,040 --> 00:39:20,360
Platini literally sent in an invoice.
It was a printed invoice.
620
00:39:20,440 --> 00:39:22,720
And it was then paid
through the books of FIFA
621
00:39:22,800 --> 00:39:25,360
just before Blatter was due
to stand again.
622
00:39:26,680 --> 00:39:28,600
It's just a terrible look.
623
00:39:31,720 --> 00:39:34,040
I was shocked. I was shocked.
624
00:39:34,720 --> 00:39:39,160
Then, uh, they have immediately opened
a case against me
625
00:39:39,240 --> 00:39:42,360
and nobody added what generally they do,
626
00:39:42,440 --> 00:39:43,920
uh, that, uh…
627
00:39:44,000 --> 00:39:47,960
uh, he's innocent until, uh…
628
00:39:48,040 --> 00:39:49,760
until declared guilty.
629
00:39:49,840 --> 00:39:52,040
Nobody has ever mentioned that.
630
00:39:52,120 --> 00:39:57,880
If everybody else who stole a bicycle,
they will say that, but not for me.
631
00:39:59,960 --> 00:40:01,680
FIFA President Sepp Blatter
632
00:40:01,760 --> 00:40:05,400
and his possible successor,
UEFA chief Michel Platini,
633
00:40:05,480 --> 00:40:07,960
have been provisionally suspended
for 90 days
634
00:40:08,040 --> 00:40:10,480
by the global football body's
Ethics Committee.
635
00:40:11,120 --> 00:40:13,120
This morning,
its Ethics Committee,
636
00:40:13,200 --> 00:40:15,440
which Blatter actually set up,
637
00:40:15,520 --> 00:40:17,240
said they were suspending him
638
00:40:17,320 --> 00:40:20,880
and his potential successor,
Michel Platini.
639
00:40:22,120 --> 00:40:24,960
And we get told that the payment
640
00:40:25,040 --> 00:40:30,080
is for money Blatter had promised Platini
641
00:40:30,160 --> 00:40:33,400
when he was working for FIFA in 2002,
642
00:40:35,280 --> 00:40:37,320
but never got round to giving him.
643
00:40:38,000 --> 00:40:40,760
Finally, he'd given him
two million Swiss francs
644
00:40:40,840 --> 00:40:46,160
to provide him with the balance
nine years after he finished the work.
645
00:40:54,560 --> 00:40:57,960
This news broke
after the arrests in Zurich,
646
00:40:59,040 --> 00:41:03,720
an environment where people
were being criminally charged with,
647
00:41:03,800 --> 00:41:06,960
and some people were pleading guilty,
of bribes and kickbacks.
648
00:41:08,560 --> 00:41:10,640
Actually, it isn't the same,
649
00:41:11,560 --> 00:41:15,760
but I think part of what they were
charged with under the FIFA code
650
00:41:15,840 --> 00:41:17,800
was conflict of interest.
651
00:41:17,880 --> 00:41:20,040
It's against your duty of loyalty
652
00:41:20,120 --> 00:41:22,600
to the organization
that you're working for.
653
00:41:24,960 --> 00:41:30,160
And this was the moment, really,
when there was, in an official document,
654
00:41:30,240 --> 00:41:34,160
a payment being made for Sepp Blatter.
655
00:41:34,240 --> 00:41:38,640
It felt like the nail
in his coffin, really.
656
00:41:40,520 --> 00:41:44,920
Sepp Blatter and the European soccer boss
Michel Platini have both been banned
657
00:41:45,000 --> 00:41:46,520
from soccer for eight years
658
00:41:46,600 --> 00:41:49,680
by the Ethics Committee
of football's global governing body.
659
00:41:50,400 --> 00:41:53,560
He said he was sorry,
though mainly for himself.
660
00:41:53,640 --> 00:41:57,120
I am now suspended eight years.
661
00:41:57,800 --> 00:42:01,320
Suspended eight years. But I will fight.
662
00:42:02,280 --> 00:42:05,000
I will fight for me,
and I will fight for FIFA.
663
00:42:06,120 --> 00:42:08,320
Suspended eight years for what?
664
00:42:09,800 --> 00:42:13,480
The decision means Blatter's
17 years at the helm of world soccer
665
00:42:13,560 --> 00:42:14,800
will end in disgrace.
666
00:42:17,800 --> 00:42:19,880
That's what caused Blatter's fall.
667
00:42:19,960 --> 00:42:23,400
Not all the other things,
not the arrests, not the US indictment.
668
00:42:23,480 --> 00:42:26,440
That is what led
to Sepp Blatter being banned as well.
669
00:42:33,680 --> 00:42:37,440
Sepp built
the new FIFA headquarters as his home.
670
00:42:39,320 --> 00:42:44,040
Nobody believed that, um,
Sepp will move out of the FIFA house.
671
00:42:46,440 --> 00:42:51,640
Uh, and his departure was a disaster
for, you know, for some.
672
00:42:57,240 --> 00:43:00,240
Mr. Platini
was then eventually suspended.
673
00:43:00,320 --> 00:43:02,000
The UEFA Executive Committee met,
674
00:43:03,200 --> 00:43:09,240
and, uh, they decided unanimously
to ask me whether I would be running,
675
00:43:09,320 --> 00:43:12,440
pending what will happen
with the suspension of Michel Platini.
676
00:43:12,520 --> 00:43:14,760
At that time,
we were all convinced he will be back,
677
00:43:14,880 --> 00:43:17,600
and then he's the candidate,
and, uh, that's it.
678
00:43:19,040 --> 00:43:20,400
For Platini,
679
00:43:20,480 --> 00:43:23,840
Infantino is
a kind of football civil servant.
680
00:43:23,920 --> 00:43:26,080
He didn't see Infantino's ambitions.
681
00:43:26,160 --> 00:43:28,560
He didn't understand them
or see them coming.
682
00:43:29,440 --> 00:43:33,240
Infantino decided he doesn't want
to remain general secretary all his life,
683
00:43:33,320 --> 00:43:36,600
and he had
a role model right there, Blatter.
684
00:43:36,680 --> 00:43:42,520
They come from Swiss villages
ten kilometers away from each other.
685
00:43:43,160 --> 00:43:48,040
When Infantino came to see Platini
to tell him,
686
00:43:48,120 --> 00:43:52,240
"While you're suspended,
I'll be a candidate,
687
00:43:52,320 --> 00:43:55,760
and if you ever come back,
I'll let you have the job back,"
688
00:43:55,840 --> 00:43:58,040
Platini is naive enough to believe it.
689
00:44:02,200 --> 00:44:03,920
There's no criminal investigation.
690
00:44:04,000 --> 00:44:06,680
Can you guarantee the World Cups
will be played in Russia and Qatar,
691
00:44:06,760 --> 00:44:07,880
or is it too early to say?
692
00:44:07,960 --> 00:44:09,240
I mean, yes, yes, now, I…
693
00:44:09,320 --> 00:44:12,520
Today, if you ask me the question…
twenty to eight,
694
00:44:12,600 --> 00:44:15,320
yes, the World Cup will be played
in Russia and in Qatar.
695
00:44:15,400 --> 00:44:17,720
If it would be one wave, it would be okay,
696
00:44:17,800 --> 00:44:21,680
but for me, it was week after week
or month after month something more.
697
00:44:21,760 --> 00:44:24,000
Jérôme Valcke,
the secretary general of FIFA,
698
00:44:24,080 --> 00:44:25,040
has been suspended.
699
00:44:25,120 --> 00:44:28,040
Soccer's world governing body said
it had been made aware
700
00:44:28,120 --> 00:44:31,120
of a series of allegations
involving the secretary general.
701
00:44:31,200 --> 00:44:33,080
The 54-year-old has been put on leave
702
00:44:33,160 --> 00:44:35,680
and released from his duties
until further notice.
703
00:44:35,760 --> 00:44:38,440
I have no feeling
that we did anything wrong,
704
00:44:39,120 --> 00:44:42,240
but we are in a world
where everything has to be perfect,
705
00:44:42,760 --> 00:44:44,320
and we were not perfect.
706
00:44:47,120 --> 00:44:51,360
I have never, never, uh,
never taken any money.
707
00:44:51,440 --> 00:44:53,840
I have never asked money also.
708
00:44:53,920 --> 00:44:56,200
I have never asked FIFA to give me more.
709
00:44:57,240 --> 00:44:58,320
They gave it.
710
00:44:59,200 --> 00:45:03,960
If you want to run FIFA
with the ethics code, good luck.
711
00:45:04,040 --> 00:45:05,680
I'm not sure you can do that.
712
00:45:06,600 --> 00:45:08,320
I mean, that's not the real world.
713
00:45:11,560 --> 00:45:14,880
The Russian Football Federation
has also said it'll back Infantino,
714
00:45:14,960 --> 00:45:17,080
who is currently UEFA's general secretary.
715
00:45:17,160 --> 00:45:19,120
Done everything
what needs to be done?
716
00:45:19,200 --> 00:45:21,760
I still have time,
but I've done already quite a lot, yes.
717
00:45:23,000 --> 00:45:23,880
Very well.
718
00:45:23,960 --> 00:45:27,720
-How's it going?
-Thank you. Very, very, very, very well.
719
00:45:27,800 --> 00:45:29,680
Okay? Thank you very much.
720
00:45:30,640 --> 00:45:34,680
The number of votes for Gianni is 115.
721
00:45:34,760 --> 00:45:37,320
-Congratulations, Mr. Gianni Infantino.
722
00:45:37,400 --> 00:45:41,040
Platini understood,
after Infantino was elected president,
723
00:45:41,120 --> 00:45:42,800
that Infantino was an enemy
724
00:45:42,880 --> 00:45:46,600
and hadn't been an ally
for a very long time.
725
00:45:54,520 --> 00:45:57,360
He was in the right place
at the right time
726
00:45:58,360 --> 00:45:59,520
with the right friends.
727
00:46:01,480 --> 00:46:03,800
I accept this election, Mr. President.
728
00:46:03,880 --> 00:46:05,960
-Good, thanks.
-Oof!
729
00:46:07,880 --> 00:46:11,120
So, when Infantino, uh, won the election…
730
00:46:11,200 --> 00:46:12,520
The destiny.
731
00:46:13,720 --> 00:46:17,040
The fate. Everything happens for a reason.
732
00:46:17,120 --> 00:46:19,960
Al-Qadr, as the Arabs say.
733
00:46:20,040 --> 00:46:23,520
…one of the first things he did
was gesture widely and say…
734
00:46:23,600 --> 00:46:26,040
The money of FIFA is your money.
735
00:46:26,720 --> 00:46:28,960
It's not the money of the FIFA president.
736
00:46:29,040 --> 00:46:31,440
And what we understand from that
737
00:46:31,520 --> 00:46:35,480
is that the abiding quid pro quos
and status quo
738
00:46:35,560 --> 00:46:37,840
that gave them money
is gonna remain in place.
739
00:46:39,400 --> 00:46:43,320
You interpreted it that way
because you have a… a wrong mindset
740
00:46:43,400 --> 00:46:46,240
about… about me or about FIFA,
uh, at that time.
741
00:46:46,960 --> 00:46:47,800
When I say--
742
00:46:47,880 --> 00:46:49,960
FIFA had just gone through
that enormous scandal.
743
00:46:50,040 --> 00:46:51,440
Absolutely. Absolutely.
744
00:46:51,520 --> 00:46:54,560
So, the mindset was fashioned
by what had happened.
745
00:46:54,640 --> 00:46:56,440
You're right. You're absolutely right.
746
00:46:56,520 --> 00:47:00,440
And the money of FIFA has to serve
for the development of football
747
00:47:00,520 --> 00:47:03,120
and not for any… anything else,
and if you…
748
00:47:03,200 --> 00:47:08,480
I meant that money is the money
of football, of football development,
749
00:47:08,560 --> 00:47:11,360
of all of you who have to develop football
in your country.
750
00:47:11,440 --> 00:47:12,680
It's not money of a few people.
751
00:47:14,920 --> 00:47:17,240
Don't misappropriate that money.
752
00:47:17,320 --> 00:47:19,080
Use it where you have to use it.
753
00:48:13,320 --> 00:48:18,480
Canada, Mexico, and USA have been
selected by the FIFA Congress…
754
00:48:19,480 --> 00:48:22,640
…to host the 2026 FIFA World Cup.
755
00:48:23,120 --> 00:48:23,960
Thank you.
756
00:48:24,040 --> 00:48:28,520
As far as we do know,
the kind of institutionalized corruption
757
00:48:29,240 --> 00:48:30,520
of FIFA
758
00:48:31,200 --> 00:48:34,320
has been exorcised.
759
00:48:34,800 --> 00:48:37,640
People want to know
why you've come to Moscow.
760
00:48:37,720 --> 00:48:41,840
I received an invitation from Mr. Putin.
"You come to the World Cup."
761
00:48:41,920 --> 00:48:45,520
But I actually think
that what we've got now
762
00:48:45,600 --> 00:48:50,120
in terms of a big concern
about FIFA and its direction
763
00:48:50,880 --> 00:48:55,200
is actually, um, on the level above that,
764
00:48:56,760 --> 00:49:01,760
which is about football's place
in a difficult and divided world.
765
00:49:14,800 --> 00:49:19,160
It's something that's embedded in our DNA,
that we're inherently passionate about.
766
00:49:19,240 --> 00:49:20,560
That's why it's a unifier.
767
00:49:23,160 --> 00:49:25,600
We're part of the world.
We're a part of the world.
768
00:49:25,680 --> 00:49:28,240
We wanna host the world.
We want the world to see who we are.
769
00:49:28,760 --> 00:49:32,520
And we're known for our hospitality,
for the way we treat our guests.
770
00:49:33,360 --> 00:49:35,000
It's not only a matter of pride.
771
00:49:35,080 --> 00:49:37,520
It's a fundamental part of our culture
772
00:49:37,600 --> 00:49:39,880
to treat our guests
in a hospitable manner,
773
00:49:39,960 --> 00:49:41,920
making them feel welcome and feel safe.
774
00:49:45,360 --> 00:49:50,160
In 2010, World Cups were awarded by FIFA
775
00:49:50,240 --> 00:49:53,680
in unacceptable ways
with unacceptable consequences.
776
00:49:54,960 --> 00:49:58,120
Human rights, equality, democracy,
777
00:49:58,200 --> 00:50:01,960
the core interests of football
were not in the starting eleven
778
00:50:02,040 --> 00:50:03,600
until many years later.
779
00:50:04,800 --> 00:50:06,840
The migrant workers injured
780
00:50:06,920 --> 00:50:09,920
or families of those who died
in the build-up to the World Cup
781
00:50:10,000 --> 00:50:11,280
must be cared for.
782
00:50:14,640 --> 00:50:16,440
There is no room for employers
783
00:50:16,520 --> 00:50:19,640
who do not secure the freedom
and safety of World Cup workers.
784
00:50:20,760 --> 00:50:24,520
No room for leaders
that cannot host the women's game.
785
00:50:27,320 --> 00:50:28,480
No room for hosts
786
00:50:28,560 --> 00:50:33,560
that cannot legally guarantee
the safety and respect of LGBTQ+ people
787
00:50:35,520 --> 00:50:37,280
coming to this theater of dreams.
788
00:50:46,920 --> 00:50:52,440
The fact is,
the World Cup is taking place in Qatar.
789
00:50:53,040 --> 00:50:57,560
They have survived all the allegations
that were made against them.
790
00:51:01,200 --> 00:51:02,800
The legacy remains to be seen,
791
00:51:02,880 --> 00:51:06,240
but they're hosting it
because they are so wealthy.
792
00:51:07,280 --> 00:51:08,360
That's the reason.
793
00:51:08,440 --> 00:51:10,640
Money is the reason
why they're hosting it.
794
00:51:17,120 --> 00:51:18,560
And Pelé!
795
00:51:18,640 --> 00:51:22,160
People are always gonna
really love football and enjoy football.
796
00:51:22,240 --> 00:51:23,640
That's the whole point.
797
00:51:24,880 --> 00:51:26,200
It's compelling.
798
00:51:26,280 --> 00:51:28,640
It's magnetic. It's captivating.
799
00:51:28,720 --> 00:51:29,680
It's magical.
800
00:51:34,400 --> 00:51:36,720
It's the job of the people who run it…
801
00:51:38,760 --> 00:51:43,640
to make sure
that they steer it in a direction
802
00:51:43,720 --> 00:51:46,480
that embodies good values,
803
00:51:46,560 --> 00:51:49,160
that's worthy of all that passion.
804
00:51:51,800 --> 00:51:55,880
'Cause it's… it's really clear
that football can be abused,
805
00:51:55,960 --> 00:51:57,480
um, and exploited,
806
00:51:57,560 --> 00:52:01,440
and the passions of, uh, people
who love the game
807
00:52:01,520 --> 00:52:05,280
can be exploited for malevolent purpose.
808
00:52:12,200 --> 00:52:16,960
Dictators have used sport
for propaganda, basically,
809
00:52:17,760 --> 00:52:22,520
and that's happened
incredibly recently in 2018 in Russia.
810
00:52:22,600 --> 00:52:25,680
The world will witness a welcoming Russia,
811
00:52:25,760 --> 00:52:27,120
a warm Russia,
812
00:52:27,200 --> 00:52:29,160
a Russia which is open to the world.
813
00:52:29,960 --> 00:52:34,120
We don't have to look back
to Argentina in '78 or Berlin in 1936.
814
00:52:34,200 --> 00:52:38,400
It's happening, and we've got to be
very, very alive to that.
815
00:52:39,920 --> 00:52:44,160
Big sport does need to be extremely honest
816
00:52:44,240 --> 00:52:46,880
about the power that it holds.
817
00:52:48,080 --> 00:52:49,040
Ah!
818
00:52:49,520 --> 00:52:50,360
Guys!
819
00:52:50,440 --> 00:52:54,760
And whether it represents the force
for good in the world that it wants to
820
00:52:56,520 --> 00:52:58,240
or just a power
821
00:52:59,680 --> 00:53:01,000
that can be bought
822
00:53:01,080 --> 00:53:03,800
and be at the service of dictators
823
00:53:03,880 --> 00:53:06,880
and the most powerful
and wealthy countries around the world.
824
00:53:14,240 --> 00:53:16,600
When I had to leave,
825
00:53:16,680 --> 00:53:19,520
I wouldn't like to leave,
but I had to leave,
826
00:53:20,360 --> 00:53:24,080
uh, because somewhere
there is always an end.
827
00:53:26,840 --> 00:53:29,720
When I am looking, uh, backwards,
828
00:53:29,800 --> 00:53:33,640
my feeling is a feeling of thanks.
829
00:53:37,800 --> 00:53:42,520
The… the international football
has two billion people
830
00:53:42,600 --> 00:53:44,880
which are attached to this game,
831
00:53:45,800 --> 00:53:49,080
and they go always back
to play in the streets,
832
00:53:49,160 --> 00:53:53,600
to play everywhere because they believe
in the good of the game.
833
00:53:55,440 --> 00:53:58,640
And I am happy to have contributed,
834
00:53:59,280 --> 00:54:04,160
uh, to some of historical moments
in football.
835
00:54:06,160 --> 00:54:08,400
And this makes me very proud.
836
00:54:12,480 --> 00:54:16,320
We all grew up
with the World Cup and FIFA.
837
00:54:16,400 --> 00:54:21,360
But if you are not on the inside,
838
00:54:21,440 --> 00:54:24,480
you never know about all the shadiness,
839
00:54:24,560 --> 00:54:26,280
about this kind of Mafia,
840
00:54:26,360 --> 00:54:31,040
people who shared out obscene amounts
of money amongst themselves,
841
00:54:31,120 --> 00:54:35,640
carved up
disproportionate amounts of power.
842
00:54:48,240 --> 00:54:51,240
If you ask
if FIFA can get ever away from corruption,
843
00:54:51,320 --> 00:54:54,160
you have to ask if the world
ever can get away from corruption.
844
00:54:54,680 --> 00:54:56,360
I say, "No, it can't."
845
00:54:57,000 --> 00:55:00,640
As it is structured now,
no, not… not possible.
846
00:55:02,160 --> 00:55:04,640
You're president of FIFA.
847
00:55:04,720 --> 00:55:06,360
You're not a head of state.
848
00:55:06,440 --> 00:55:08,680
Who elected you? An executive committee?
849
00:55:08,760 --> 00:55:12,160
After what shady deal
or alliance or compromise?
850
00:55:12,240 --> 00:55:14,720
Who really gives you your power?
851
00:55:16,360 --> 00:55:17,520
The players.
852
00:55:20,840 --> 00:55:24,520
"An injustice anywhere
is a threat to justice everywhere."
853
00:55:26,040 --> 00:55:30,320
The impacts go
to every single corner of the planet.
854
00:55:31,240 --> 00:55:33,960
The impacts go
to every single boy and girl
855
00:55:35,120 --> 00:55:36,760
who dreamt, as I did,
856
00:55:37,800 --> 00:55:41,040
as a little kid running around
on a dusty field outside their house.
857
00:55:46,360 --> 00:55:49,640
You were at FIFA
for more than 40 years.
858
00:55:50,520 --> 00:55:53,720
Um, president from 1998,
859
00:55:54,360 --> 00:55:56,320
but so many of the ExCo
860
00:55:56,400 --> 00:55:58,240
and so many people that you knew
861
00:55:58,320 --> 00:55:59,480
were arrested,
862
00:56:00,000 --> 00:56:03,240
and, you know, have faced charges,
some have gone to prison,
863
00:56:03,320 --> 00:56:06,360
um, but you were… you were in charge,
you were the president.
864
00:56:06,440 --> 00:56:09,280
Do… do you feel a responsibility
865
00:56:09,360 --> 00:56:12,200
that that occurred
when you were at the top?
866
00:56:18,720 --> 00:56:21,520
I am… I have a responsibility
for the FIFA
867
00:56:21,600 --> 00:56:24,920
and all the members
who were working into the FIFA.
868
00:56:25,640 --> 00:56:27,960
I have to take the responsibility.
869
00:56:28,480 --> 00:56:29,760
But members of committees
870
00:56:29,840 --> 00:56:35,320
which were coming
from other countries and other cultures,
871
00:56:35,840 --> 00:56:37,920
uh, I cannot be responsible.
872
00:56:38,600 --> 00:56:44,640
I'm sorry for… for the FIFA,
but… but I cannot be morally responsible.
873
00:56:44,720 --> 00:56:45,680
Um…
874
00:56:45,760 --> 00:56:47,880
My conscience is clear.
875
00:56:47,960 --> 00:56:49,800
I'm, uh, uh…
876
00:56:49,880 --> 00:56:52,560
And I can sleep well,
even now I can sleep well,
877
00:56:53,800 --> 00:56:57,640
uh, because I cannot be responsible
for that.
878
00:56:58,240 --> 00:57:02,040
I regret this has happened,
but I'm not responsible.